Author Topic: Pre-Election Democrat Gun Worries? (Read 1683 times)

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2007, 10:52:25 AM »

And btw, to get this back on topic .........

Related to the questions that started this thread, gun purchases in the State of Hawaii were up by 27% for 2006, and are on a good pace to increase yet again this year.

Of course the local mouthpiece rag spins it by saying "More guns in the hands of criminals".

Even more guns in the hands of non-criminals.

Hap · « **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2007, 11:05:26 AM »

You guys have won me over.

More guns and free ammo.

In fact, upon turning 18, lets give each person without a criminal record 15 guns and a billion rounds of ammo.

That should fix everything.

All the Best,

hap

Phaser11 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2007, 11:09:42 AM »

Oh they will
Count on it.

And when it does, there is nothing you can do about it. Allways remember, nothing stops crime more that taking firearms away from sportsmen. It's like working for minimum wage at a Starkist Tuna plant...

Now all the Dems have to do is keep the war going untill 2008 so they can use it in the election. Any takers on that bet?

john9001 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 15, 2007, 11:09:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Hap

In fact, upon turning 18, lets give each person without a criminal record 15 guns and a billion rounds of ammo.

typical liberal answer, spend more taxpayer money, just where are you going to get money for 15 guns and a billion rounds of ammo?

raise taxes?

68Hawk · « **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2007, 11:11:53 AM »

If someone runs into your shopping mall, shooting wildly, will you:

A. Look around in panic and hope there's a cop there to save your butt?

B. Look around in absolute hopelessness and hope theres a fat rentacop to dive behind?

C. Look around for something to cower under because you have absolutely no options?

D. Look around for a target as you draw your weapon, because you're prepared to defend yourself and the innocent people around you?

E. Walk up to the someone and calmly explain to them that they aren't being very nice, and that maybe an orange julius might help them feel better?

I got a D+ on this one. How 'bout you?

PS
Hap, you obviously know as little about guns as you do about history. Do yourself a favor and read a book or two.

Hap · « **Reply #20 on:** February 15, 2007, 12:16:29 PM »

Gee Hawk, thanks for taking an interest in my welfare.

All the Best,

hap

p.s. I am surprised, despite my sarcasam, that some didn't respond with "that's a great idea! Law abiding citizens (no criminal record) being issued plenty of guns and plenty of ammo.

Seriously, which of you gun toting red blooded patriotic Americans has a problem with that?

Charon · « **Reply #21 on:** February 15, 2007, 12:36:16 PM »

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p.s. I am surprised, despite my sarcasam, that some didn't respond with "that's a great idea! Law abiding citizens (no criminal record) being issued plenty of guns and plenty of ammo.

Seriously, which of you gun toting red blooded patriotic Americans has a problem with that?

Sounds like another big government entitlement program to me. Don't think we could afford the cost of the program. Also sounds a bit coercive, which doesn't go along with individual rights all that much.

However, there are some 80 million responsible, legal gun owners in America today as a base to pull from for CCW, so it hardly seems to be a "need" kind of thing.

A better solution would be to just outlaw terrorism and other bad behavior -- like we do with narcotics. For example, cocaine is illegal in all 50 states and every country on our border. Since it's been illegal for half a century, there has been no cocaine available anywhere in the US. Problem solved. Do that with crime, and prohibit firearm ownership, and we could all live in peace and without fear. Simple really.

Charon

Hap · « **Reply #22 on:** February 15, 2007, 12:42:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Charon
Since it's been illegal for half a century, there has been non cocaine available anywhere in the US. Problem solved.

Check.

hap

john9001 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 15, 2007, 01:07:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Hap

p.s. I am surprised, despite my sarcasam, that some didn't respond with "that's a great idea! Law abiding citizens (no criminal record) being issued plenty of guns and plenty of ammo.

Seriously, which of you gun toting red blooded patriotic Americans has a problem with that?

i responded, you ignored, you need some help with anger management. seriously.

lazs2 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 15, 2007, 02:08:24 PM »

yep hap... people did respond. Your solution to any problem is to get the government involved with some sort of entitlement program.

as charon so eloquently explained... we already have more than 80 million gun owners to draw from and free enterprise will add even more once the government gets out of it.

people like you will never get it and.. that is fine... I wish you a safe life... and, if you are ever in a really bad position I hope someone with a gun is there to save you.

It is probly best for everyone that people like you who lack the courage and the will to take responsibility for their own protection... it is better that you are not armed.. there is no shame in it.

lazs

mentalguy · « **Reply #25 on:** February 15, 2007, 02:55:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Charon
Sounds like another big government entitlement program to me. Don't think we could afford the cost of the program. Also sounds a bit coercive, which doesn't go along with individual rights all that much.

However, there are some 80 million responsible, legal gun owners in America today as a base to pull from for CCW, so it hardly seems to be a "need" kind of thing.

A better solution would be to just outlaw terrorism and other bad behavior -- like we do with narcotics. For example, cocaine is illegal in all 50 states and every country on our border. Since it's been illegal for half a century, there has been no cocaine available anywhere in the US. Problem solved. Do that with crime, and prohibit firearm ownership, and we could all live in peace and without fear. Simple really.

Charon

that was so funny I cried.

Helrazr1 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 15, 2007, 03:18:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Hap
You guys have won me over.

More guns and free ammo.

In fact, upon turning 18, lets give each person without a criminal record 15 guns and a billion rounds of ammo.

That should fix everything.

All the Best,

hap

See, I think that the problem here is that you are sort of sheltered in the current environment in which you live. Last time I checked, Casper, or any of Wyoming for that matter, doesn't have too many targets that a terrorist would find appealing. As a result of that, it seems that you have your blinders on as to what goes on in other parts of the country. See in Wyoming, people have guns for sport, hunting etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is there a great need for defensive firearms up there?

From what I've read, your whole state has just under twice the population as the town I live in, which doesn't say much. Yes, that means 50th largest, population wise in the nation (out of 50). You have one area code. I'd say that tucked away in your sheltered world up there, you might want to look at what's going on elsewhere before you make uneducated statements as to what is good for the country when it comes to any topics, not just this one.

68Hawk · « **Reply #27 on:** February 15, 2007, 07:02:38 PM »

Sorry Hap, but I didn't detect any sarcasm in that statement. If any, sounded like a gunophobe trying to represent the responsible gun ownership argument. If you are for responsible gun ownership then I agree with you. If you are actually proposing that the government hand out guns to people, worse yet at taxpayer expense then I am very very not in agreement.

Whatever your views on guns, if you still think that historians exist only to write books for their own profit then you still know nothing about history.

68Hawk · « **Reply #28 on:** February 15, 2007, 07:04:19 PM »

Helrazr, you think no one ever gets mugged in Wyoming? They got meth there too. Its all good till it happens to you, isn't it?

Helrazr1 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 15, 2007, 09:07:49 PM »

I think that the message may have been skewed by the level of irritation at the time the post was written.