Author Topic: Pre-Election Democrat Gun Worries? (Read 1671 times)

68Hawk · « **Reply #45 on:** February 19, 2007, 02:32:45 PM »

Guppy has a point that some people are a little over rabid about their own power, and that some people do seem to be waiting and hoping that someone will try to take their guns. The 'make my day' crowd are a little scary, but they are certainly not the mainstream. Not that he's using this as an argument against guns, but I would put it as one directly for guns. Those skinhead bastards have been arming up for decades. I'd like to be ready for them when they go psycho.

Why need a bayonet? Simple, and you can tell all the gunophobes this one when they bring up the 'you don't ever need a bayonet' argument.

Gun Rack. Simple as that. Ever go out on a wet day, or in the snow? Don't quite have enough blankets or are they getting snow kicked on them? Downrange and need to set your rile down for a minute but don't want to walk back to the firing line? Bayonet. Protect your investment. Stick it in the ground. Won't get too wet. Won't get a bunch of grit in it. Won't mar the nice wood furniture.

They cook hot dogs really well too.

VOR · « **Reply #46 on:** February 19, 2007, 02:38:36 PM »

What happened to the furniture on that poor SKS? tsk tsk.

68Hawk · « **Reply #47 on:** February 19, 2007, 03:47:22 PM »

Yeah, it came with that stock, but I have the matching original in my closet, keeping it nice. I got it with that one for no extra monies and i figured it would be a little tougher than the wood. I know someone with that stock and it fit me well. It's really flimsy at the joint where it folds though, an the other person I knew with one already broke his (roughhousing on a cold winer day, I wasn't there). Seemed nice to save space in my case too, but i worry every time I put the butt on the ground. I think I'm going to get another wood stock and stain it a dark green or something. I have two other friends who still have theirs in the wood, but their matching furniture is taking a beating. Been telling them we should all three get some and do it. If anyone else out there is thinking about restocking their SKS in something synthetic, I'd reccomend a druganov, a monte carlo or the T6, though I haven't gotten my hands on a T6, so don't take my word on how strong it is.

Oh, and yes, I know that a SKS isn't really a great rifle to put a scope on, but I did it anyway. I'm under no dillusions of accuracy. I use it for spotting, and every once in a while I actually aim a shot through it.

And yes, the spike bayonet is pretty requisite for cooking hot dogs. Not sure how one would pull that off with a blade. The spike is just a better design for thrusting. The chisel tip on it is pretty menacing. Can't pop it off, but its always there when you need it, and the extra weight keeps the muzzle climb down.

Any other SKSophiles out there? Check out http://www.simonov.net

smash · « **Reply #48 on:** February 19, 2007, 05:25:02 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2

But to say you are a democrat for guns is like saying that you are a peta member that has a cattle ranch.

Well I hunt with a group of guys and women that are split right down the middle politically, and one of those Democrats has 40+ weapons in a converted refrigerator.

I guarantee anyone walking around in that field stating crap like that would get dusted good... by a couple of 70 year old men. And thats what needs to happen.

The things that have been said by the far right of your party have been at the level of fanaticism for some time -- and thats where the Taliban reference comes from.

Reading through this forum for the first time over the last week or so I've seen the most stupid bunk being posted. The "Democrats don't support the troops" BS. Really? In the circle I know the number of Democrats who have served outnumbers Republicans - though not by a huge amount. And the entitlement program comments are a laugh. I hate to say it, but their are two lazy SOBs I know that are on disability and they are both Republicans.

What this country needs are people who got the stones to stand up and admit sh^& decisions. Doesn't do any good to look around and try to figure out a way to wiggle out of it and point the finger somewhere else. I got no problem with honest people, but I got little tolerance for the rest.

People in this country wiggling and cackling and carrying on trying to fester up hate are hurting us all. While that crap is going on some asscracker is going to drive a truck in over the border with a nice surprise for all of us, and trust me -- he won't care if he kills Republicans or Democrats. About that time you'll figure out both you and I hang the same flag at our house, but by then it will be too late.

As far as the pointy hat reference, well you better believe the ignorant and mob mentality go hand in hand. And for sure we all learned something from watching New Orleans, and that is that things break down quick. You think I'm looking at a new Kimber because I'm worried Venezuala is going to invade?

Its not like Harold Rudolph was a liberal Democrat..... The violent fringe element tends to hang out a bit more on your side of the ideological fence.

You need to think though a little better what your presumptions are. You really think my representatives don't know

a) I support gun ownership
b) I don't think very much of the so-called "immigration reform"

And if you think I was rough on you, imagine the conversation with a fellow liberal if the dingus is dumb enough to tell me I shouldn't own a gun... thats when I really get bent out of shape.

g00b · « **Reply #49 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:49:41 AM »

I'm not too worried. About the worst the Dems are likely to do, and it would be a strech, is re-instate the AW ban. Big whoop. I can still buy and own more firearms than I will ever be able to shoot.

I do hate the 50 cal ban. I think it's rediculous I can have a "compensator" but not a "flash hider". Who gives a crap about the length of the barrel, how the stock is layed out, bayonets or grenade launchers? I just can't see any of these things being significant to the legality of the weapon in any way.

Why can't they just cut all the bull and say:

1. Semi-auto
2. 10 round mags

I think we can all live with that. I know I could. You would have to find some huge mut**a-f**kin zombie hordes to actually NEED a large cap mag.

And when you have an excess of ammo you tend to just squander it anyways, right?

lazs2 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 20, 2007, 08:55:03 AM »

smash... you are from Il. I wouldn't say that the political climate there was too sensible.

I would be glad to tell every one of your gun hording buddies who vote democrat just how badly they are betraying the cause of the second amendment. Your state is one of the most restrictive in the nation... the fact that you are fine with that is proof that listening to you (or your friends) on guns and voting is a waste of time.

I know I hit a nerve on this... everyone who owns firearms and supports the second feels guilty if they vote democrat... they excuses are always so contrived that it is disgusting. I think selfish is the key democrat trait and some of you guys can't decide if you want rights or want to be selfish.

A lot of people here seem to feel that so long as the law only affects the other guy... they can live with it... but as owning and shooting and the shooting sports become more regulated and more trouble to do... we will lose enthusiasts and new shooters.. that is the democrats plan... make it such a pain to buy and own firearms that it will die out or, at least.. lose the power of the voting block.

The feeling that it is only affecting others is bull... it is jim crow all over.. It is not for those "others" it is coming for you...

Every time they pass new laws in kalifornia... another gun I own is questionable... another one I want is out of the question.. how is that not a bad thing? Who cares if we have a stock of 30 round mags... if everyone had all they wanted then there wouldn't have been such a surge in buying em when the ban was lifted.

lazs

Edbert · « **Reply #51 on:** February 20, 2007, 09:49:51 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Oh.. whoever talked about the KKK... they realize that was formed and run by democrats right?

There is only one senator (currently) in congress who was ever a member of the KKK and he was actually one of the leaders, the man in question is the senior senator from West Virginia.

Remember the Republican run out of his office as majority leader for saying something about Strom Thurmond that folks felt had racial overtones? The man in question was Trent Lott.

So a republican is a racist for saying something positive about someone who was a racist, and a democrat is not a racist even if he was a leader of the KKK...mmmm-kay...got it.

EDIT: So Dan, what's your name on arfcom? Those guys give me the willies sometimes too...."zombies" indeed!

Guppy35 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 20, 2007, 11:56:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Edbert

EDIT: So Dan, what's your name on arfcom? Those guys give me the willies sometimes too...."zombies" indeed!

Guppy35 over there too. I don't post much at all. I let myself slip into one thread lately where they are talking about what do do to prepare for the next ban.
I know I should just stay out of it, like I should here too, but I couldn't help myself

I like ARs cause they're fun to shoot. I don't get those guys who buy these nice light rifles and then throw 10 pounds of stuff on em to 'go tactical' with the lazer sites, flashlights, rails, taped together mags and the works. I can't figure out where in shooting them, that comes in handy unless your fantasy is to 'go tactical' in some dark alley with a bunch of zombies attacking you

I tend to pay more attention to the retro forum as I like the A1 uppers and more simple early AR look.

VOR · « **Reply #53 on:** February 20, 2007, 12:02:33 PM »

LOL Guppy, you aren't alone. The culture has even coined he new word "tacticool". I heard (read) one guy who put it rather well when it comes to ARs and accessories: After 2 years and $8000, you'll wise up and get back to the basics.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 20, 2007, 12:07:33 PM »

LOL! All it's missing is the fuzzy dice hanging from the rear view mirror

Maverick · « **Reply #55 on:** February 20, 2007, 12:11:11 PM »

The fuzzy dice are hanging on the operator but they are very hard to see due to the miniscule size.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #56 on:** February 20, 2007, 12:34:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
The fuzzy dice are hanging on the operator but they are very hard to see due to the miniscule size.

I do tend to agree, cause they seem to be compensating for something

Edbert · « **Reply #57 on:** February 20, 2007, 01:42:45 PM »

I got a home-made 16" flat-top blaster with a railed forend, an eotech, flip-ups front and rear, and a VFG. Pimped? Maybe to some, but certainly not by arfcom standards. It is still lightweight, handy, and fun to shoot. Was thinking about converting to 7.62X39 since almost all my shooting (with it) is at 100yds or less and I enjoy the penetrative qualities compared to the 5.56NATO.

I have a full sized heavy "sniper" version of the AR too, also hand built by me, but I don't shoot it much. If I want to REALLY go sniper I use my 0.5-MOA Weatherby MkV chambered for 300 winmag

Back on topic...I am waiting to hear all of those bolt-action scoped deer rifles being called "sniper rifles" by the gun-nazis once hillary becomes president.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #58 on:** February 20, 2007, 01:50:55 PM »

I've been curious as to that myself.

I once saw a guy use a home bult rifle able to hit dimes at 300 yards every shot. That would scare any democrat.

lazs2 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 20, 2007, 02:12:41 PM »

My dentist is a hunter... doesn't own anything that isn't a scoped bolt action rifle.... He is in boone and crocket with 10 of his animals.

He can shoot a .270 and make a 500 or six hundred yard shot.. he makes longer ones with his wetherby... I fully expect that the gun grabbing democrats will eventually get around to noticing that he has a potential to be a "sniper" and ban his guns and... kill his hunting.

If democrats had their way no one would be able to own a gun except their bodyguards. If you continue to vote for them then they will eventually get their way.

It is that simple.

lazs