Iran isn't involved

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by babek-
Ok - Iran ist the bad guy.

That on 9/11 everywhre in iran there were demonstrations against the terroristic attack against the WTC - while the arabs were celebrating the attack could be ignored.

That Iran always fought against the sunnite Al Kaida and that the mprisoned Al Kaida members in Iran are allowed to be interrogated by international analysts could be ignored.

That Iran always fought against the Taliban could also be ignored.

 

While they haven't openly supported the Taliban previously, there are reports they are helping the allies of the Taliban in Afghanistan.  There is the former prime minister that is responsible for a great deal of the attacks against coalition forces that Iran openly supports.  Iran also allowed Al-Queda high ranking members use Iran as a transit point in escaping from Afghanistan.   The old saying, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is alive and well for the mullahs and the Revolutionary Guard, which are the true powers that govern Iran.


ack-ack

[babek-]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
While they haven't openly supported the Taliban previously, there are reports they are helping the allies of the Taliban in Afghanistan.  There is the former prime minister that is responsible for a great deal of the attacks against coalition forces that Iran openly supports.  Iran also allowed Al-Queda high ranking members use Iran as a transit point in escaping from Afghanistan.   The old saying, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is alive and well for the mullahs and the Revolutionary Guard, which are the true powers that govern Iran.


ack-ack

That "the enemy of my enemy..." is an arab saying - surely not an iranian.
Especially the mullahs and the revolutionary guards are fanatic shi ites.

The Al Kaida defines all shi ites als sub-humans who should be eliminated.
Just check the quotes of Al Zarkawi in his videos before he was finally killed.

The Taliban used the same definition.

The sunnite Al Kaida operates in iraq with suicide attacks against shi ite targets - like mosques, market paces, recruiting stations and so on.

Its propaganda to say that Iran an the sunnite terrorists would cooperate in any way. They are enemies - defining each other as heretics.

So - no room for the arab saying.

[cav58d]

Originally posted by babek-

Ok - Iran ist the bad guy.

 Yea....Sure Babek.  Maybe if your a nazi?

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Quotes....(The Good Guy)

“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury,”

“There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Palestine will wipe off this stigma (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world, ... The World without Zionism.”

“As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map,”

"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets."

We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them."

"The real Holocaust is what is happening in Palestine where the Zionists avail themselves of the fairy tale of Holocaust as blackmail and justification for killing children and women and making innocent people homeless."

"The West claims that more than six million Jews were killed in World War II and to compensate for that they established and support Israel. If it is true that the Jews were killed in Europe, why should Israel be established in the East, in Palestine?"

# "If you have burned the Jews, why don't you give a piece of Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to Israel. Our question is, if you have committed this huge crime, why should the innocent nation of Palestine pay for this crime?"

"Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations."

Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm."

"[There is] no significant need for the United States."

[-tronski-]

And yet there are 20 odd synagogues, a jewish MP, and 1 of the 4 jewish charity hospitals worldwide all in Tehran...

 Tronsky

[VOR]

Good point, Tronski. The guy's crazier than we thought.

[moot]

Cav, this is the part where you take this opportunity to see things from a different perspective.

Aristotle:
"I is the mark of an intelligent mind to be able to entertain an idea without necesarily accepting it."

Like you were supposed to when that thought-criminal rattled your cage for all it was worth.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by babek-
Ok - Iran ist the bad guy.

That on 9/11 everywhre in iran there were demonstrations against the terroristic attack against the WTC - while the arabs were celebrating the attack could be ignored.

That Iran always fought against the sunnite Al Kaida and that the mprisoned Al Kaida members in Iran are allowed to be interrogated by international analysts could be ignored.

That Iran always fought against the Taliban could also be ignored.

Now the TV stations show that the bad bad iranians are delivering weapons to the shi ite iraquis.



Its easy to blame Iran for this and that.

 

See thats the mistake GW made with his axis of evil speach.
He didnt bother to seperate the Iranian government from its people.

The people of Iran held the demonstrations.
The government was and is still very much our enemy.

Though the A of E speach may very well have turned its people against the US too

GWs people should have known better. In politics it isnt always what you say as much as it is how you say it.

[cav58d]

Originally posted by moot
Cav, this is the part where you take this opportunity to see things from a different perspective.

Like you were supposed to when that thought-criminal rattled your cage for all it was worth.

Okay Moot.  I'm a Lutheran.  But let me entertain the idea from another perspective.  Say....A Jew's....


Hmmmm.  He's still the enemy.  And an even bigger prettythanghole.

[Momus--]

Both the Austrian Government and the CEO of Steyr have confirmed that no enquiries have been made by the US authorities regarding the serial numbers of these alleged rifles. One wonders therefore how Tony Snow et al quite so sure of these allegations, given that these particular weapons are so widely sold and copied.

Source.

One wonders if the guns in question are being stored in the same location as Saddam's mobile WMD labs, his shopping basket full of nigerian yellowcake and the flowers with which the Iraqi populace were supposed to welcome their liberators back in 2003?

Meanwhile, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Pace admits that while he's sure Iranian fighters and materiel are finding their way into Iraq (not unsurprisingly given the inability of the US to maintain security), he has seen no evidence to suggest that this is the doing of the Iranian government.

Source.

[moot]

I understood your post as putting babek in the same basket as mashmoujinahad & co.

[Saintaw]

So ... you're invading Austria next? heh.

[FBplmmr]

Originally posted by ramzey
we should bomb Austria

NO BLOOD FOR BEER!  

[VOR]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush said Wednesday that "a part of the Iranian government" is involved in sending deadly explosives into Iraq but acknowledged he didn't know whether top Iranian leaders were responsible.

Full Story

[Viking]

Originally posted by Momus--
One wonders if the guns in question are being stored in the same location as Saddam's mobile WMD labs, his shopping basket full of nigerian yellowcake and the flowers with which the Iraqi populace were supposed to welcome their liberators back in 2003?[/URL]

While I don't necessarily agree with all you said in your post, that part was damn funny!

[Viking]

Originally posted by cav58d
Okay Moot.  I'm a Lutheran.  But let me entertain the idea from another perspective.  Say....A Jew's....


Hmmmm.  He's still the enemy.  And an even bigger prettythanghole.

Babek is an enemy of the Jews?