Originally posted by Raptor
Tedr is rather narrow minded if you ask me...
We've had the P51s, P47s, B17, 109s, 190s, spits, and f4u's all remodelled in the past 2 years. With the addition of the P47N, Spit8 and Spit16, F4U-1A, and Jeep. With the P38L having been remodelled with the addition of the P38G, P38J, B24, Ki84 and T34 the prior year.
We don't *need* any new perk planes. Perk planes are just that... a perk to the game. We *need* more representative planes of country planesets.
B25: very likely to be added. HTC is in full swing CT mode at the moment, so it is not likely to happen anytime soon. B25 would not be desregarded just because a some people would want to up it from a cv... It would be used off of the CV.... but only in the SEA.
HE-111: Again, this is likely to be added in the foreseeable future. At the moment we have 3 German bombers, one is a perk bomber and the other two are early war models. HE-111 would fill a large gap in part of the German planeset.
Ju-188: Again, there is a large gap in the German planeset this could fill. The He-111 would also be classified as early war, the Ju-188 would be a later war German bomber that wouldn't be a perk ride.
D4Y Judy: We desperately need some more representative Japanese planes, especially bombers. Scenarios start to lack a lot when you have use D3As and B5Ns as primary Japanese bombers for every special event.
P39 would be a nice addition that would probably see decent use and fill gaps in both the US and Soviet planesets (two birds with one stone)
With the recent changes to AA guns in the Main Arena, I don't think we *need* the 88mm flak anymore. I would have said "ok that's understandable prior to the AA changes, but now it takes a lot to get near an enemy airfield without the 88mm flak.
The A26 isn't *needed* I know you are all set on the A26, but it doesn't have that significant of a role in WWII to claim we need it as much as you say. As far as needing another perk bomber, fine, in that case yes we could use it. But we do not desperately need it, and I wont shed any tears if it isn't added anytime soon.
I would add the Oscar and Betty to the list of *needed* planes.
Nice.
Wasn't aware of some of those remodeled planes over the past two year time frame. Been playing about 1-1/2 years. I should have remembered the latest Jug and Spit XVI. My mistake.
* Perk Bomber Ride: I argue for an additional perk plane for bomber drivers, due to complaints about buff drivers who "bomb and bail" or otherwise operate in a suicidal manner. Part of the problem may be argued that the only perk bomber is the Ar-234, and not all buff drivers like the Arado. No need for bomber perks if you don't fly the Arado.
Some argue for perking bomb load, or perking drones, or perking more of the existing bombers. I counter that rather than gimping existing rides, that adding what was a popular plane in another venue, that is a perk worthy ride, to the plane set is a better answer.
What I see are perk worthy planes are the B-29, the A-26, and the He-177 with guided ordnance. Since the A-26 had so many configurations (as well as B and C versions), did not use guided ordnance, and does not have the heavy load out and high speed/altitude of the B-29 (as well as nook controversy), it is the one I push.
If there were another non-U.S. Allied or Axis bomber that I saw as being a perk-worthy addition to the game, I would argue for it, as the U.S. bomber line is pretty well represented already.
* B-25: as stated, only reason I push the A-26 is as a
perk ride. Otherwise, the U.S. planeset and bomber lineup are already pretty well represented sompared to the rest.
If the question or effort is in
filling out the planeset, then I would agree that the He-111 for EW SEA and AvA events (BoB) would be a good choice. The He-188 a good choice. Petlyakov Pe-2, Bristol Beaufighter, Handley Page Halifax, Nakajima Ki 43 Hayabusa, Ilyushin Il-4 or Il-10, Fiat G.55, Oscar or Betty. More Yaks? A MiG? P-39 and P63 - even though American designs - were far more heavily used by the Soviets (1/2 of all P39's, nearly all P63's produced went to Soviets), so if adding the Bell plane, I'd argue for the Soviet version. There are SEA and AvA (and possibly ToD) reasons to bring some of them in, among other planes that could be considered, which also benefit the few pilots that fly EW and MW arenas.
* D4Y Judy - not only a needed addition to the small Japanese plane set, but a more effective plane for the carrier-borne plane set.
* 88mm Flak. Not just a supplement to additional flak in game. The FlaK36 was used as a tank killer, long range direct fire, indirect artillery fire, as well as high altitude AA. It gives the GVr's an additional light perk ride; and I admit, in order to prevent over use, it's weak defense, poor maneuverability, and light perk cost are part of the package. It is a unique multi role addition to the GV set. Brings puff ack back to airfields and bases. Not necessarily a "need", but a addition that is different from all existing ones. Can be entered from EW onward. It mixes things up a little.
Narrow minded? The resource drain is ToD. Remodeling existing planes also considered a priority. I see any new additions as probably being few and far between, so I try to find and suggest additions that meet multiple goals. If we might see more than a very few additions, if any, in the next few years, all the better. I don't see 5 additions and over a dozen remodels coming in the next two years, but I am willing to be pleasantly wrong. If you could see just 2 additions in the next 2 years, what would they be?
