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Offline CpMorgan

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Monster in my brain
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2007, 02:19:07 PM »
This is how I feel most of the time. Spent 73-74 in country with SOG watchin Charlie take everything back. Now I just don't watch certain programs on TV or go see certain movies. Assault on Prct 13 comes to mind for me. (the first one) Ran outa the theater the first time I went with some friends to see it. Was all the sounds of the bullets whizzin by that got me. Still have my hair stand up whenever I hear a chopper flyin by. Spent all of the 80's stoned outa my gourd tryin to make some sense of the whole thing. Now I just feel like I got a Dr. Jekel/ Mr. Hyde thing goin on and I work hard everyday keepin the moster in his cage. Sleeping is better finally, but I still don't dream either. Just tryin to take each day at a time, and I got a good lady that truly understands what it's all about cause she's a RN with RL experiances of her own. As far as friends go, I'm not one to get that close with anyone anymore. And besides, most guys where I live today have some really limited goals IMO. Getting drunk after work and stumbling home to rag on the wife ain't all that much fun, so I avoid that environment as much as possible. So from one Vet to another....

Welcome home, Hawco, Mac, and all you others out there.  

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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2007, 03:25:51 PM »
Hawco and all the folks out there dealing with PTSD...  I feel for you guys... I've been Dx'd with it too (I'm not a vet, some guy tried to kill me with a screwdriver during a car jacking attempt...I'm not going to go into what I've experienced out of respect for the fact that this thread is geared towards combat-vets)

What I wanted to tell you is that I work for the VA (Please note I am not an official spokes person for the Department of Veteran's Affairs) but right now there is a major push to develop and provide trauma services.  I really encourage you guys to contact your primary care provider at the VAMC and ask about what services are available to you and for a assessment/referral.  Keep in mind that OEF/OIF guys are priority at the moment, but I'm sure your local Trauma Services Team can get you in quickly.

Also... don't be shy applying for service connection benefits.  Talk to a VSO or VBA rep.  

Thank you for your service guys <>

I'll be seeing you around the VA :)
« Last Edit: February 16, 2007, 03:28:38 PM by DYNAMITE »

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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2007, 03:29:38 PM »
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Now I just feel like I got a Dr. Jekel/ Mr. Hyde thing goin on and I work hard everyday keepin the moster in his cage.


BINGO!

TY CpMorgan ya nailed this one.

Mac

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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2007, 03:37:24 PM »
I did an 14 month stent as an EMT-B, and then upgrading to -I before having to give up the job because of the PTS I was experiencing.  During the 14 months, I responded to thrity one car fatalities, nine being children.  Nearly all of them were DOS/DOA.  My first and last response were the hardest; both children, 1 decap.  I'm not going to go into any more details because of privacy.
This isn't something that haunts me to this day, but the stress and anxiety I experienced for a week or two after responding to accidents was just too much for me to take.  After all of my unsucessful resuscitation's, I would go home, and just cry uncontrollably.  It's difficult to describe.  Just a terrible, terrible feeling.  You know you did everything you possibly could, but it just doesnt help.  
Finally, the last crash put me over the edge, and I resigned from my position.  I attended therapy meetings for about 3 months.  Its bittersweet looking back.  I'm proud of what I did, but it still brings back some chitty feelings.  Cynical to say, but a phrase i've learned to get by is..."it is what it is".
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Re: Monster in my brain
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2007, 04:12:58 PM »
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This is how I feel most of the time. Spent 73-74 in country with SOG watchin Charlie take everything back. Now I just don't watch certain programs on TV or go see certain movies. Assault on Prct 13 comes to mind for me. (the first one) Ran outa the theater the first time I went with some friends to see it. Was all the sounds of the bullets whizzin by that got me. Still have my hair stand up whenever I hear a chopper flyin by. Spent all of the 80's stoned outa my gourd tryin to make some sense of the whole thing. Now I just feel like I got a Dr. Jekel/ Mr. Hyde thing goin on and I work hard everyday keepin the moster in his cage. Sleeping is better finally, but I still don't dream either. Just tryin to take each day at a time, and I got a good lady that truly understands what it's all about cause she's a RN with RL experiances of her own. As far as friends go, I'm not one to get that close with anyone anymore. And besides, most guys where I live today have some really limited goals IMO. Getting drunk after work and stumbling home to rag on the wife ain't all that much fun, so I avoid that environment as much as possible. So from one Vet to another....

Welcome home, Hawco, Mac, and all you others out there.  


Yep!  THE BEAST WITHIN!

1st enlistment 1966 - 1970

1968 RVN...........

Was stationed at MCAS Yuma.  2nd enlistment 1970 - 1974

Was having really strange dreams.  Had a really good OIC.  I told him about the dreams.  Asked him if I could see a Doctor or something.  He got me an appointment with a Navy Psych.  Told him the dream and about some others.  He told me I was NORMAL???  And said don't worry about it?


The DREAM ........

find myself as some BEAST!  I'm moving around in a great rage!  With every step I take, with a wierd sort of pleasure, I rend the very ground as I moved about with the rage growing!

I stop,  I realize as I look over at a tree line, someone or something is traveling along a trail through there.

I rejoice!  I move toward it thinking it's something I can ambush and rend and rip and KILL!

Suddenly I'm a human. I'm traveling down a trail within a treeline.  I STOP!  something is ahead. I can sense it.  It is a thing of pure rage.  It seeks only to rend, rip, and destroy.  I realize I can avoid it by taking another path, BUT I also realize it will seek out me and my people and destroy!  I KNOW I can go down the path were it waits.  I know I can destroy it BUT I will be killed in doing so.    I choose, I go down the trail to meet it.  It will not destroy my people!

I wake up!

Had some others that were about as bad but different.

Wasn't drinkin at the time.  Started drinkin shortly there after and STAYED drunk for a very long time!

Hate IT!  Every now and then............  I still spend time drunk.  It's like I have too................

NO THANK YOU I don't want any of them dam strange pills the Drs. at the VA give out!!!!

To all that have it, and them damd dreams!  

 Please accept my best wish's and may God Bless you and yours and keep you safe and well!

I KNOW how ya got there!
« Last Edit: February 16, 2007, 04:16:18 PM by wrag »
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2007, 05:11:52 PM »
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Originally posted by wrag
Yep!  THE BEAST WITHIN!

1st enlistment 1966 - 1970

1968 RVN...........

Was stationed at MCAS Yuma.  2nd enlistment 1970 - 1974

Was having really strange dreams.  Had a really good OIC.  I told him about the dreams.  Asked him if I could see a Doctor or something.  He got me an appointment with a Navy Psych.  Told him the dream and about some others.  He told me I was NORMAL???  And said don't worry about it?


The DREAM ........

find myself as some BEAST!  I'm moving around in a great rage!  With every step I take, with a wierd sort of pleasure, I rend the very ground as I moved about with the rage growing!

I stop,  I realize as I look over at a tree line, someone or something is traveling along a trail through there.

I rejoice!  I move toward it thinking it's something I can ambush and rend and rip and KILL!

Suddenly I'm a human. I'm traveling down a trail within a treeline.  I STOP!  something is ahead. I can sense it.  It is a thing of pure rage.  It seeks only to rend, rip, and destroy.  I realize I can avoid it by taking another path, BUT I also realize it will seek out me and my people and destroy!  I KNOW I can go down the path were it waits.  I know I can destroy it BUT I will be killed in doing so.    I choose, I go down the trail to meet it.  It will not destroy my people!

I wake up!

Had some others that were about as bad but different.

Wasn't drinkin at the time.  Started drinkin shortly there after and STAYED drunk for a very long time!

Hate IT!  Every now and then............  I still spend time drunk.  It's like I have too................

NO THANK YOU I don't want any of them dam strange pills the Drs. at the VA give out!!!!

To all that have it, and them damd dreams!  

 Please accept my best wish's and may God Bless you and yours and keep you safe and well!

I KNOW how ya got there!

My worst one iswhen I feel Dr Frankentsien moving in for a few days, I always feel his hand on my shoulder before he egts hold  of  Steg  out of the drain culvert and then dceidce to rather interrogate him they   hack him up inthe hope we will reveal ousevles, I'll still pay a visit to stegs wife, alwyas tell her he died quicly savng us all, mkes her feel good so job done.
aplogies for spelling mistakes, juys popped a pill as my alarm on my watch went off.
Maybe I should head to the arena? might actually land a kill feeling like this lol
Shoold change my handle to the Redbaron !
Good luck everyone, enjyoy your life as it sure doesn't last long.
Edit to that, I must be one of the easiuest to kill in the arenam but boy ! sure have fun while dodging abd ducking the experets!!
« Last Edit: February 16, 2007, 05:13:56 PM by Hawco »

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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2007, 05:19:21 PM »
experets?

Wasn't that a Monty Python skit?

Hawco

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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2007, 05:48:37 PM »
spent alot of time with my grandad

he was the only one in the family who really understood what i was going through
i could sit with him for hours sometimes not even saying a word

i don't know why but after i'd gone back to england and visited him i'd always feel alot beter  

when he died i went downhill BIG TIME

the wife introduced me to a Vet at the nursing home where she works
and now when i'm really feeling S**t  i knock on his door for a chat

i once asked my grandad "does it ever stop?"
he said
"no it's still the same as it was but at my age its's Just a litttle fuzzy around the edges"

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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2007, 06:06:48 PM »
Whew,
   Ya'll draggin up some feelings for me. Been what, 30 years now since I got back stateside. And it seems like it was this morning. Oh well..another day.
  What really chaps my behind and makes the monster rattle his cage is when I get some young-prettythang punk talkin down to me like I was some moron. Or just partonizing me like I'm a little less off than they are. Man, I just want to show them just how fragle the human body really is as I tear out his jugular with my fingers.....

But then, I take a deep breath and smile really pretty and cold right in their eyes untill I can see their pupils dialate and I know their heart rate jumped a little. Then I get really close and just violate their personal space enough to make it uncomfortable. Then very politely I tell them, "You really are not worth it."

Control the monster, and you can own his power.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2007, 06:14:36 PM by CpMorgan »

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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2007, 06:08:29 PM »
I was fine after the first rodeo. I didn't notice any ill effects except for the usual home adjustment issues that passed after a couple of months.

After the second time, I jumped off the couch and was headed for the door when I heard a string of firecrackers going off outside. I don't think I made any connection with the sound as in I didn't think it was something other than what it was, but I still reacted for some reason. I have no idea what I was going to do when I got to the door or why I was even gonna go out there. It scared the wife a little. Started having dreams a few months afterward, but not reliving any particular event.

After the third time, I jump occasionally at a sudden noise but nothing really beyond what's to be expected. The sudden increase in heart rate when this happens pisses me off and gets me wired up for a few minutes.

 My main thing now is watching sad movies or sad situations. I can't stand to see someone grieve and even if it's make believe or a total stranger I'll bawl my eyes out. Can't control it.

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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2007, 06:58:49 PM »
Man oh man...

This thread is opening a box I held tucked away fearing I was insane.

Sux when the wifey is waking you up and yer covered in sweat...sez your're screaming again and starts to tell me I'm either calling in a fire mission screaming into my fist "Danger Close you Mother F*******...adjust...adjust..." or the worst... Tunnel nightmares...frikken spiders, darkness...dank dark smell..then I can't find my way back...voices.

I still don't know how I did it... I was young and dumb.  Just typing this has me sweating, shaking...like I can't breathe, choking or drowning....

Gotta take a break.

As much as I hate this thread, it's a good one...

Thanx,

Mac

Still staying drunk and medicated to a lesser degree than years before....If I could just have regular dreams... Hell I'd live with dreams of humpin sheep if the bad ones would just go away.

The sounds of choppers in the air really gets me hard. Frikken NEWS reporters on TV raises my BP.  Bite the bottom lip and Drive On.

My 2 cents... doesn't mean a thing..

Mac
« Last Edit: February 16, 2007, 07:08:54 PM by AWMac »

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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2007, 07:06:18 PM »
Defiante;y not looking to checking into the Hyatt on Saturday, can see it all now, name, res #, what's your name again?" "Ccan't find you in the system" Sure it's this hotel you've booked?" " we have the basement room next to the laundry left" .

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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2007, 07:26:28 PM »
Nice lil chat with ya Hawco.

Take care Bro... ya got my number.

Mac

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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2007, 07:33:56 PM »
First, I dont have PTSD and my heart goes out to you folks who are trying your best to confront it, live with it and help others.

As a youth, I worked at a gas station right by the runway.  The Army Guard has medivac choppers (UH-1s) that flew constantly.  They'd overfly the station all the time on their way to/fro.  We had some customers who'd simply have that look of terror as a low flying Huey was slowly ascending and descending nearby.  I was never sure what to make of it, til the service manager explained PTSD to me (This was 1984).  Explained he's had a few mechanics in the past who served in Vietnam and just couldnt deal with the constant Huey traffic so close.

Good luck to you guys.

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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2007, 08:38:50 PM »
Mac, Hawco, everyone else,
  Just a few notes that might help some. I've gotten to the point where I don't like to "pick at the scab" as it were. It'll never heal up and will ALWAYS stay sore to the touch. It wont go away, and it wont stop messing with your head. But it will give you strength if you let it. A wise person told me once that it's not what happened that is the problem, it's what it made me have to do to survive that's hard to live with.
  Society teaches us that we are to behave in a certain way, and act a certain way in order to be accepted as a "normal" human. Once those "norms" are negated or removed from reality, we are left with a void. The human emotional balance is left without a basis to stabilize itself. I know, I know it sounds like psyco babble, but hear me out please, cause it helped me. The reality of that "situation" was that everything we were taught to believe in from childhood was trashed. Human life meant nothing. Sanity was something you held onto with a vice grip because the whole environment was insane. Nothing was real except the mind numbing fear and the need to survive another day, another hour, another minute. NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAD TO DO. I became the monster, and I'M GLAD I DID. There, I've said it! I'm not proud of it, and I don't brag about it, and I keep that monster chained up in a cage because I know just exactly what he's capable of if I let him out.
But I've learned to accept what he is. He is me and I am him. and if or when the situation ever presents itself again, I know that there is that strength available to tap into to do whatever is necessary to survive. And only those few individuals that were there can truly understand what that really means. Walk proud with your head high and DO NOT LOOK BACK. Cause in this world, brother, few can say they've actually been to hell and back and be telling the honest to God truth.
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