Fleat ack is a JOKE

[Vulcan]

Yes Urchin PTs are fast as if not faster than the actual torps.

Zig zagging is not necesarily the solution. The other night our CV was being attacked by a mid-alt 17, a 234, and a low B26. Both the 26 and the 234 got nailed. However the 17 managed to get the CV pretty easily. Even though I had put in a hellish zig zagging course earlier.

Seems to me the issue is the ack IS at the right level of damage, but for some bizzare reason a straight and level flying huge target of a bomber has less chance of being hit than a small, fast, manoevring fighter.

I think the suggestion of lotsa 303s and manneable only 37mms is good. At the moment the torpedo bombers have ZERO chance of making through the flak umbrella, and we've all seen them make it through in the war footage.

[brady]

Zig Zag, is pretymuch usless,the best bet is simply to change heading radicaly and repeadealy while the buff is almost to drop point, ya see, when I am in a buff I look at the outer destroyer to see whear it is going this tells whear the cv will"be" so i can drop in its path even if it is turning, so Zig zag's not realy the answer, the buf could arive over target when it is on a streight course, or on a turn, and if the guy knows his stuff even if it is turning he can hit it, it is the turn that is excuted that he has no time to counter that will save the CV.

  Howeaver if the CV is being JABO'ed to death, aka Sucide mishion...their is no defence.

[SOB]

Tonight, I followed an enemy P47 at low alt (probably 1k) strait into my CV group and killed him as he was right over the carrier.  He sunk the carrier, and it didn't look like ack touched him at all.  He was the only enemy around too!  I might have film of it, it was an amazing sight.


SOB

-edit- Film at 11.  It's a long film, but well worth the download to see yours truely in action.    The fleet ack thing is about in the middle.

[ 08-29-2001: Message edited by: SOB ]

[DanielMcIntyre]

How bout doing what I do and what was done historically and provide a little CAP for the cv?  If cv is near a enemy field and there's a possibility of it being attacked, then if you wanna keep the cv, up a couple of heavy fighters high over cv and shot the blighters down before they even get in range of the cv ack.

chow  

[Westy MOL]

I flew a Yak-U through the whole fleet last night to chase and nail a C-hog.
 IMO fly thru the ack more and those who whine about it will learn how to do it. It's not gaming anything, it's just about how not to be a fat plump ack magnet.

 As for CAP. I agree. But 99% of the folks won't because it's 80% boredom mixed with 20% chasing an hi alt cons. It's certainly not as much fun as vulching the enemy base under attack. Which is what thier buds are doing while they burn circles in the empty sky waiting for something to come along.

  Westy

[AcId]

I agree that there are changes in order for the CV but zygote does have a point. The only problem with providing CV CAP is that most wont do it because it's not enough excitement for them. Just yesterday the Knights had a CV off the coast of rooklandia, A1 I believe, I just launched from the CV in a Seafire when I saw a dot appear on CV dar, investigated and found a lone B-17 which I promptly shot down....but too late....he dropped and hit. The point is I ended up with 3 kills flying CAP, it's not always a boring thankless job    

[ 08-29-2001: Message edited by: AcId ]

[Kweassa]

Something else...

 It looks like, for instance, when I begin attack from port side of a CV, it seems ALL the fleet ack begin firing at me, even the ones at starboard. If I begin attack from in front of a carrier, ALL the fleet ack seem to begin firing at me, even the ones behind the bridge.
 
 Is this just my misconception? Or does fleet ack work this way?