Author Topic: Assault Weapons Ban (Read 997 times)

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2007, 12:17:49 PM »

Yes, I seem to remember him saying that as well.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:31:19 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Yes, I seem to remember him saying that as well.

How will you run your rebellion of they take away teh Black rifles??

Dago · « **Reply #17 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:34:18 PM »

The fault lies with everyone who was stupid enough to vote for a democratic congressman/congresswoman.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:43:45 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
How will you run your rebellion of they take away teh Black rifles??

My rifles aren't black.

VOR · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:53:34 PM »

In case you haven't read it, that one's on the list of this bill.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:59:29 PM »

I'm fully aware of it.

VooWho · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:25:35 PM »

I could I ask what AWB is? Is it Automatic Weapons BXXXXX?

VOR · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:26:41 PM »

Voohoo, the link to the bill is at the top. It's a short read.

VOR · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:43:46 PM »

If you can watch YouTube vids, here's a San Jose police officer addressing the semi-auto rifle issue. If you're not tehnically familiar with rifles, it's a great source of information.

Semi-Auto Firearms

x0847Marine · « **Reply #24 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:44:36 PM »

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yea just in case they missed anything...

ok so I dont remember everything about semi auto pistols but doesnt that cover a lot of 9mms dont they have like 12 or 15 round magazines? or is the trick word here "fixed magazine"

My gun (S&W 669 .9mm) is an "illegal" assault weapon if I have my 13 round mag in, and legal with the after market 10 round. I think fixed applies more to shotguns, or weapons that hold ammo internally.. but I'm not 100% sure.

Airscrew · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2007, 05:10:16 PM »

Ok, so if that applies to a fixed magazine, and if a shotgun is an example of a firearm that has a fixed magazine then it still doesnt make a lot of sense to me. last time I held a shotgun was 94 and if i remember right they only held 5 shells and if it was hunting season you had to have a plug that limited that to 3 shells. What shotgun holds more that 10 shells?
and if they are referring to rifles, I think my 30-30 and .32 only held like 5 or 6 rounds in the tube and those were lever action. the only semi-auto I can think of with a tube magazine was a Marlin 22 and it only held something like 10 I think.

LePaul · « **Reply #26 on:** February 20, 2007, 05:21:38 PM »

I remember reading somewhere, maybe its not this bill....but someone was making a real push to ban .50 caliber firearms for sale to the general public (i.e. Barrett M-82s, etc). Basically they want this because a 50 cal round can puncture the highest level bulletproof glass

VOR · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2007, 06:24:42 PM »

Your gandpa's old 30-30 deer rifle is actually a deadly sniper rifle firing armor piercing ammo capable of delivering deadly, pinpoint accuracy at amazing distances over 100 meters. This is typical of the inaccurate and often deceptive logic behind such laws as the one in question in this thread.

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Sniper Rifles are typically equipped with a high-powered scope, and every single one of them can blow through the body armor cops wear. They can even penetrate multiple police cars. Does the Second Amendment protect cop-killer Sniper Rifles? The NRA certainly thinks so, along with the powerful gun lobby that wants your children and your law enforcement officers to be at risk from these weapons of mass destruction. Some of these Sniper Rifles can even penetrate ballistic or armored glass, lightly armored vehicles, and armored limousines. Senator Ted Kennedy attempted to solve this with an important bill that would have banned armor piercing ammunition and protected lawful firearm commerce:

"Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.....

..It is outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America.."

The full article is amusing if not disturbing and can be found on the Brady Campaign's new blog site.

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Hawklore · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2007, 07:54:10 PM »

Right to bare arms..

Well we all have arms..

We're screwed...

Bodhi · « **Reply #29 on:** February 20, 2007, 08:22:05 PM »

The bill basically grandfather's in the M1 carbine, and the Garand

Section 922(v)(3) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended by striking `(3)' and all that follows through the 1st sentence and inserting the following:

`(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm that--

`(A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, level, or slide action;

`(B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or

`(C) is an antique firearm.'.