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« on: February 19, 2007, 07:21:23 PM »
I can't believe it.  It looks like the U.S. Government is really going to extradite Dog Chapman to Mexico to stand trial.  Its such a preposterous situation that I didn't really believe it was going to happen until now.  Afterall, Dog was arrested by the Mexican government for capturing a serial rapist who fled from the U.S. into Mexico.  And for the U.S. Government to sell-out one of its own citizens like this?  I don't know what to make of it.

You know, for years I've heard these slightly 'off' folks saying "The government is going to take our guns, then our education, then our freedom".  I always thought "Man, you're nuts.  Nothing like that is going to happen."  But is that the case?  Slowly but surely, just like all these supposed-crazies have been saying, our liberties have been gradually erroded.  

For instance, the U.S. has more people in prison than any other country except Russia.  And 1 out of every 30 people in the U.S. in an illegal mexican immigrant.  Though times have changed, years and years ago, a group of U.S. Navy sailors got drunk and demolished a Mexican town.  They were imprisoned by Mexico.  What did the U.S. do?  They broke them out with force of course.  Now whats the U.S. doing?  Giving up its own citizens whom have tried to do the right thing, because they broke some paper law!

All I'm saying is this.  I can't ethically or morally support actions like this from my own country.  Hopefully this is an isolated incident.  But most likely not.  They say a country crumbles from within.  I can definately see why.  I guess it really doesn't matter what your skin color is, your religion, or socio-economic background.  If someone tries to deprive you of your liberties, they are your enemy.   It just so happens that these people are part of our government.

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 07:52:50 PM »
Same thing goes in Canada, do not go there to grab a skip, a Fla. bondsman got extradited and charged with kidnapping 10-15 years ago.

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2007, 08:45:10 PM »
It's almost like GW made a deal with Mexico to let them take us over.  I just can't understand the way we treat Mexico.  
The two border agents who are rotting in jail is another thing to come to mind.  For my own opinion, unless there is a full pardon for those two border agents soon, I will assume that there indeed has been a behind the scenes deal done with Mexico to basically let them do as they please and we will do anything to make them happy.

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2007, 08:52:24 PM »
Maybe they'll just let him pay a fee, it's one of the possible outcomes I've read about.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2007, 08:55:58 PM »
Weren't there some pretty questionable evidence and circumstances in the BC agent case?

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2007, 11:06:40 PM »
The skip tracer skips out on his own bail and then cries foul when he's called on it. WTF am I missing here? He went to Mexico where he has no license to do the smash and grab thing, commited a crime there knowing full well that what he was going to do was illegal (not that ignorance would be an excuse anyhow) and then fled the country after he made bail.

Is he supposed to get a free pass just cause he has a friggin TV show? Or because he's just so damned cooool? Get a grip. We extradite foreign nationals all the time who have committed crimes in the US and fled, how is this any different? If our government blocks this because a bunch of couch potatoes think Dawg iz the shiznit then do we really expect them (Mexico)to cooperate with us when we want to prosecute a criminal that has fled south?

Don't give me that load of crap about what a hero Chapman is. He's in business...he doesn't do what he does because of his commitment to a better/safer world for all of us, he does it to make money and for the rush of breaking into someones home and possibly roughing them up a bit. If he were such a boy scout he would have reported the rapists location to the Mexican authorites so that they could apprehend him.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 12:37:46 AM »
We had a county clerk go over the edge last year. He committed several crimes (sexual abuse of a minor the worst) and evaded arrest by going to Mexico.

This past weekend he was spotted over there by someone who knew him, who reported him to the Mexican police. They arrested his ass, and brought him to the international bridge. 30 minutes later, he was booked into jail here.

This type of cross-border cooperation has always gone on here. It sounds like Dog did something he shouldn't have, given that.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 12:45:11 AM »
This sleaze that Dog captured had something like 87 counts against him, right?

Dog even had a Mexican cop WITH HIM at the time of the arrest to be sure that he did nothing illegal.

I say we should just annex mexico now before they do it to us.  They have 30 Million plus border jumpers here now... An army with lots of breeding stock.  If we do not act soon, more garbage like this will will become the norm.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2007, 03:45:37 AM »
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This sleaze that Dog captured had something like 87 counts against him, right?

Irrelavent. I'm all for getting rapists off the streets but giving an ex con carte blanche to disregard any law he chooses in order to effect capture of said rapists is an unacceptable solution. The end does not justify any means.

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Dog even had a Mexican cop WITH HIM at the time of the arrest to be sure that he did nothing illegal.

Also irrelavent. If anything this just makes the officer an accessory to the crime. Even if he thought his actions were legal at the time, I'm pretty sure he realized differently after spending some quality time in a Mexican jail. I'm also pretty sure he knew that failure to appear is also illegal. He makes his living catching people who do precisely that.

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I say we should just annex mexico now before they do it to us.  They have 30 Million plus border jumpers here now... An army with lots of breeding stock.  If we do not act soon, more garbage like this will will become the norm.

Brilliant! And we wonder why people all over the globe hate us. I find this last bit repugnant on so many levels I'm not even sure where to begin. It smacks of ignorance and racism. Read up on the history of Texas and California.

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2007, 12:43:18 PM »
So, ignore the fact that as far as he knew, he was obeying the law and had a law enforcement officer with him to assure this.... and ignore the fact that he had 87 counts of sex crimes against him... I see...  the mexican government and law enforcement is as corrupt as any on earth.  it is no mystery, it has been very well documented.  they seem to love criminals right down to a cultural level.  we are becoming more like them every day when we give a mexican drug smuggler amnesty to testify against border patrol agents who did their job... then we let the guy go again later when he was caught with yet another load of drugs... you approve of this?

as for the last comment... i choose to ignore it... mexico started a war with us and lost that territory.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2007, 12:55:19 PM »
what if one of those 87 charges was the result of something that happened to your sister?or mother? although not a huge fan of the show the few times i have seen it, it seems like dog has a passion for what he does and to ensure that the victims receive some type of closure. granted what dog did was against the law, i think our government should be doing more to ensure that no one evades justice. they worked so freaking hard to extradite dog, why can't they be bothered to capture the rapist?


(having no other info than what has been posted here, this is purely speculation, but a hawaiian dude with a bleach blonde mullet could track a repeat felon, why can't our law enforcement find thier bellybutton with both hands?)

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2007, 12:55:54 PM »
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So, ignore the fact that as far as he knew, he was obeying the law and had a law enforcement officer with him to assure this.... and ignore the fact that he had 87 counts of sex crimes against him... I see...

as for the last comment... i choose to ignore it... mexico started a war with us and lost that territory.


I'm sure Chapman knew he was breaking Mexican law, he had operated in Mexico before.

He was a long way from the border this time and the operation fell apart before he could get him across.

I would rather he not get extradited, but the war on drugs is a lot more important to the government than the life of a US citizen.

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 12:59:22 PM »
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Irrelavent. I'm all for getting rapists off the streets but giving an ex con carte blanche to disregard any law he chooses in order to effect capture of said rapists is an unacceptable solution. The end does not justify any means.


I agree.  Duane should have read up on Mexican law before he decided to go down there and kidnap someone for TV ratings.  It is his profession after all.

Only the US Government is allowed to kidnap people on foreign soil and transport them to far away countries.

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2007, 01:26:09 PM »
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This sleaze that Dog captured had something like 87 counts against him, right?

Dog even had a Mexican cop WITH HIM at the time of the arrest to be sure that he did nothing illegal.


He was arrested by the Mexican authorities because after he captured Andrew Luster, he refused to hand over Luster to the Mexican federal police.  Bounty hunting in Mexico and in quite few other countries is against the law.  There are proper procedures to follow when going after criminals in these countries and that is one thing "The Dog" didn't follow, either out of ignorance or ego.  

He should have known that state or local police do not have any jurisdiction whatsoever when it comes to federal police matters, which the Luster case was.  So having a local cop with him was pointless as the cop didn't have any jurisdiction.  Second, when asked he should have immediately turned in Luster to the federal authorities instead of refusing so he could boost his ego and seal the deal on his plans on creating a reality TV show featuring himself.

So if the Dog didn't want to go to a Mexican jail, then he shouldn't have broken any Mexican laws.  I have no sympathy for this twit, he got what he deserved and there is no one else to blame but him.  If he had followed the rules, he wouldn't be in a Mexican jail.  It is really as simple as that.


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I say we should just annex mexico now before they do it to us.  They have 30 Million plus border jumpers here now... An army with lots of breeding stock.  If we do not act soon, more garbage like this will will become the norm. [/B]


I'm not going to bother with that bit of stupidity.



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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2007, 01:27:57 PM »
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as for the last comment... i choose to ignore it... mexico started a war with us and lost that territory.



I highly suggest you read up on how the Mexican-US War started.  Here's a hint...it wasn't started by Mexico....


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