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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2007, 01:40:27 PM »
mine is the wal-mart special (or maybe K-Mart special don't remember which) it loads five in the magazine and one in the breach.  I bought it years ago.  I also have a mossberg 835 but I only use that on the elusive, wiley, evil incarnate turkeys.  calling someone a turkey should be a compliment.  :D

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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2007, 02:29:36 PM »
I have a model 97 pump trench gun..  I like the exposed hammer and the fact that there is no disconector on this shotgun... You can hold the trigger back and pump it and it fires every time it goes into battery.

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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2007, 03:13:48 PM »
Yeah, no doubt about the universal versatility of a shotgun.  After dry run at home, took my wife to the range today to let her fire the XD .45 ACP.

I was very careful to explain its many advantages including how its recoil really isn't bad for a .45.  Fired five shots, then gave her the pistol.  

She loaded it.

She aimed.

She fired one shot.

And said she didn't want to fire it anymore.  Too much for her.  

I assured her that is the reaction of some people, and that's okay.  It's all about preferences and compatibility.

So her home defense weapon of last resort is the 12-gauge double-barrel coach shotgun with No. 1 buckshot.  That'll work, and I still like it too.
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2007, 03:54:23 PM »
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mine is the wal-mart special (or maybe K-Mart special don't remember which) it loads five in the magazine and one in the breach.  I bought it years ago.  I also have a mossberg 835 but I only use that on the elusive, wiley, evil incarnate turkeys.  calling someone a turkey should be a compliment.  :D


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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2007, 04:15:53 PM »
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This is my BOOMSTICK.  Shop smart...shop S Mart.   :D


"Army of Darkness", right?
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2007, 04:25:46 PM »
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"Army of Darkness", right?


Yep!  I've seen that movie more times then I can count, love it.
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2007, 08:59:02 AM »
if the weak recoil of a 45 was too much for her then don't ever let her fire that coach gun or she will never be able to use it.

get a good 22 and let her learn on that... move up to a good 38 revolver or, 357 loaded with 38's

don't ruin her early.

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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2007, 09:40:01 AM »
what lazs said.  that coach gun might put a fear of firearms in her.

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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2007, 06:44:43 PM »
You're all right, of course, the coach shotgun with 12-gauge No. 1 buckshot would not be a nice thing for anyone to fire who won't even do .45 ACP..    

My wife realizes the coach shotgun would be a last resort.  If an emergency got that bad, she'd use it.  Theoretically.  It's a pretty simple procedure and she can remember it while not remembering many other things about firearms.

For too long I was dumbing down home defense to calibers a typical smaller woman could use.  Same dilemma that confronts law enforcement and the military.  I'll not make that mistake anymore.  If crap ever hits the fan, I'll be the one who has to provide 95% of the defense (she can dial 911 on her cell phone).  

Actually I don't think she has the will to ever fire a gun in self defense.  Some people are like that.  Can't be helped.  But I do the best I can.  She has a last resort weapon and knows how to use it if she ever had to and if she could ever muster the will to fire.  

Meanwhile, this summer she can try some Aguila mini-shells and No. 8 birdshot in a fun skeet setting.  If she is comfortable with that, then a couple No. 1 buckshot.  We shall see.  

Meanwhile, I am very happy with the XD .45 ACP.
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2007, 07:02:53 PM »
a inexperienced person with a big gun, that's dangerous.

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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2007, 07:14:36 PM »
take her shooting lots, you may find out she's a little tougher than you think once the initial and very natural aversion to loud noises goes away.  my wife is a fine shot, she has large hands for a girl so she's good with any of our firearms and she prefers the H&K USP .40 that piece is in her nightstand and she can drive tacks with it at 15 meters.  initially though she didn't want to have anything to do with firearms but once she saw how managable they are she developed into a very competent shooter.

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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2007, 07:32:56 PM »
Thunks in the night...ha...Ive got a firearm for such cases but sadly, the source of the noises at my place are ghosts.  Footsteps, doors on the cabinet opening & closing...the shower cleaner thing in the shower going off.  Got worse after having the place blessed.

Maybe I'll trade the Ruger in for Garlic & Holy Water

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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2007, 08:42:13 PM »
Holy hijack, LePaul, thanks for reminding us some thunks are beyond our most diligent home armament upgrades.  Now about that vapor I saw outside my window on a dark and stormy night ...

Scariest munger I ever saw was that invisible beastie in Forbidden Planet.  Or maybe The Thing in black and white.
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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2007, 09:08:41 PM »
I think we have or perhaps had one here.  I posted about it on this bbs a while ago but things have been quiet for some time now.

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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2007, 09:14:51 PM »
Statistically a firearm is the second best weapon for home defense, in regards to protecting from loss of property or injury.

The best weapon is any other weapon besides a firearm.