atking bombers

[titanic3]

i'm having a bit trouble with atking b24 and b17 bomber formations. when i do HO's on them, they shoot my pilot,engine,oil,or radiator. atk from above and i lose a wing. atk from below i lose landing, and eventually  can't land. (sumtimes i can, mostly miss the runway or burn to death.)

  after all these trials, i tried shooting from the sides. either i'm going to fast or i can't turn quick enough and collide. so any of guys can tell me the best angle of atk? thx

[4deck]

U should stay away from bomber pilots.

[rauchen]

I had a lot of trouble with this until recently when I witnessed a P-51 take out 3 B-24's without losing any parts himself.

Attack from above and to one side.  Dive at about a 45 degree angle & let them come across your field of view from left to right or right to left.  This keeps the target in view & not lost under the nose of your fighter.

Start firing in front of the target  at d8 or d1000 depending on your ammo load & when the tracers start hitting use rudder to keep the rounds landing in the same spot.  Ideally this is the cockpit, but no matter - just keep them in one spot & something important will come off.

Attacking head on from slightly below is usually a good angle. Make sure to arc in from one side slightly so that the gunner(s) can't get a good bead.  Put rounds in the cockpit & corkscrew on the exit run.

[CAP1]

best advice i can offer........BE CAREFUL around 17's and 24's.......they're the most heavily armed bombers. KEEP MOVING!! DO NOT FLY STRAIGHT AT ANY TIME DURING YOUR ATTACK. any skilled bomber pilot can VERY easily jump around the gunner positions quickly. he may also have gunners onboard........and if one shoots at ya, all 3 bombers guns are shooting at ya.i fly JU88's a lot........and virtually EVERYBODY under-estimates the guns.....they fly straight into my guns....i kilt a guy that came within 100 yards before firing a shot. and that was ALL he fired. lancs, and 8's vunerable from directly underneath.........a lot of gunners can't hit a fighter if its comming straight down at em...biggest thing is to bob n weave.....zig n zag.........keep ur nose on target, but don't hold still for them......keep speed up too.....there was a spit i wish i woulda filmed...it was dimebag2....he was a VERY hard target.......almost shot me down......because he kept moving around, and making himself a hard target.....if you're gonna go after 24's and 17's.....use something with cannons, and try to stay out of range of their guns......thats all i know about them, as i avoid em.....they hurt me:eek:

god luck!!

[Lusche]

For successfull bomber busting you need:

- Speed.

- Angles. Both horizontal as well as vertical. Also always attack the drones first.

- Guns. Cannon armament preferred (but you have to use what you got).

- Patience. Don't press the attack if your position is not favorable.

- Aim. Preferably aim for cockpit, or wingroots/ inner engines. Don't rake the bomber. Concentrate your fire.

[4deck]

But if any bomber pilots are readiing this. Do not be discouraged. Yes it is true that these slashing type of attacks are painful, they are not without a defense. SO on that note I shall let you on a little secret. If you have a twisty stick use it. Use it alot. Get used to using it when firing. Not only is your target trying to avoid being shot at so are you. You have an advantage when you have 2 drones with you but guarentee that if you run into one of these attacks your gonna loose one. Then the fight is about fair. The key is to inflict as much damage that first pass, to avoid a second attack. Also keep your speed up as much as possible. SLight down angle if you have bombs. I keep the hard deck around 10k, and will not cross it if i have bombs left. Otherwise Ill go to 6k if out. Make a beeline for the nearest safest haven if you can. If its gonna be a fight take it on your terms. Remember to lead your shots too. Hes probable attacking at you at close to 500 mph, thats very fast and hard to hit. But you got alot of lead flying so odds are you will get some hits, and at that velocity a little goes along way.  BTW noobs should learn the approach on a bomber before you get on my six. Ill have you down before you could even go to the video tape on what just happened. As you were.

[Fianna]

I won't even mess with 17's unless I've been looking for something to fight for awhile, and they're the first things I see.


With 24's, I attack from above and dive through the formation. Aim for the wing root area and set in on fire. Then just stay out of range until the burning one dies, and go back in to set another on fire. When that one dies, kill the last one.



Don't stay within guns range for any longer than you have to. Get in, make a pass, and get out.

[RedTop]

^^^^  what he said.

[CAP1]

Don't stay within guns range for any longer than you have to. Get in, make a pass, and get out.

 i have to aggree with fianna on this point:aok ...........i kill a LOT of fighter pilots who insist on staying in my gun range,,,,,and they also allow their speed to bleed off to the point they can only attack from underneath me, which makes them even easier to hit.
 something i do sometimes is to go into a very shallow climb when i see this.....they slow even more, and sometimes can't get back up to me......i only tried that in 88's so far, and have no clue if it works on the bigger buffs. i still think the 88's are really a bit better......smaller, a bit faster, and carry a LOT of bombs......drawback....weak defense.

[bozon]

A few more points:

Attack:
Prefered approach, as suggested is a steep dive from above. It is best not to align yourself with the bombers and attack from high 6, but to have some angles off.

Egress:
Don't pull up right away, you are not trying to rope them. Instead, follow through under the bombers and continue ahead slightly lower then them at high speed. They have less guns to aim low forward and the high speed will get you out of rage quickly. Again, don't flight straight ahead of the bombers - take 30 deg off and fly to his 1 or 11 oclock to add some deflection to his aim.

Re-engage:
Once passed 800-1000 yards ahead and a little to the side, start a zoom climb. While you zoom, the slow bomber will start to come under you. Don't turn toward the bombers, let them come to you while you use the tim to build E. Plan it so you reach at least 3000 feet above it (~900 yards) before it is under you again.

Use the sun:
especially on the attack, or while you loiter above it, put yourself between the bombers and the sun. It would be annoying for him to keep watching your while blinded, not to mention the aim.

Wear him out:
If he is ready for you, don't attack right away. Hover above it without engaging for a little while. His alertness will go down and he'll be busy with other things such as getting ready for his attack run or watching out of other fighters around. Works wonders if you use the sun.

[Blooz]

Bring friends and cannons.

Unlike real life where a bomber would have multiple gunners, our AH bombers have only one gunner. If you attack bombers with a friend in a coordinated effort, one of you will be a target and the other gets target practice.

Working as a team makes it a cake walk as the defender can only be at one gun position at a time.

[4deck]

[CAP1]

Unlike real life where a bomber would have multiple gunners, our AH bombers have only one gunner. If you attack bombers with a friend in a coordinated effort, one of you will be a target and the other gets target practice

does this also hold true if you have other players joined in your plane as gunners? i remember in AW2, you could carry as many gunners as there were positions??

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by CAP1
does this also hold true if you have other players joined in your plane as gunners? i remember in AW2, you could carry as many gunners as there were positions??

only allowed 1 gunner besides the pilot.........


be nice if they would change it though...........

[TW9]

high 12 oclock aiming for cockpits.. fester and (dare i say it) voss were some of the best at it.. kill pilot and plane instantly blows up and sometimes you get a drone or 2 with it for your efforts.