Author Topic: German rear-guns reloading (Read 1178 times)

frank3 · « **on:** February 21, 2007, 02:16:39 PM »

The defensive MG's on the German planes usually were magazine armed (I believe there were about 150 rounds in each magazine)

How about a small reload time when one magazine runs out?

titanic3 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2007, 03:10:55 PM »

we already have jeeps,M3, and lvt. we dun really need it, but i'll try it

VooWho · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2007, 03:20:01 PM »

GVs can't supply planes in the air or on the ground.

Frank this would be a great Idea. Also did the Il-2 tail gun carry only (I think it was) 250 rounds? Kinda low.

titanic3 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2007, 08:53:38 PM »

OOoooohhh planes.... i was reading fast and thought it said tanks. srry ppl

frank3 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2007, 08:10:34 AM »

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Originally posted by VooWho
Frank this would be a great Idea. Also did the Il-2 tail gun carry only (I think it was) 250 rounds? Kinda low.

I'm not sure, but I believe the MG was belt-fed? I think they had a single belt attached, nothing more (I could very well be wrong thoug

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Denholm · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2007, 08:37:44 AM »

Well, if this gets passed I want the same thing for the A6M's MGs

frank3 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2007, 08:47:22 AM »

And don't forget the MG's on the B5N and D3A were magazine-fed as well (with drums I believe)

Denholm · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2007, 09:41:43 AM »

Well, I only recall the A6M, since I've rarely flown the D3A or the B5N.

Tails · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:27:22 AM »

Front cannons on the Bf-110C were magazine fed as well. The tail gunner had double duty as loader (maybe triple duty as radio opperator. Cant remember).

frank3 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:53:31 AM »

Tails is right, the 110 was, in fact, designed for a 3-man crew but they figured 2 could do the same job.

I believe the newer versions of the 110 had rearguns that were belt-fed?

DblTrubl · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2007, 02:07:52 PM »

The A6M's cowl mounted type 97s were belt fed. The actions were accessible from the pilots seat but I don't think it would be practical to reload them while in flight.

frank3 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2007, 02:26:33 PM »

Note that I am talking about defensive armament, not offensive

Krusty · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2007, 02:36:42 PM »

110s guns were always belt fed. The 110G-4s with Schrage Muzak had 60-round MG/FF drums for the upward firing guns. The gunner was sitting right there, so he'd re-load them. They only came with 1 extra reload per gun (2 guns). That's not the nose guns.

As for the 110 being designed for 3 men... I'm not sure where you get that. I've never heard that. The idea I've read was the "Zorstorer" plane was always meant to have a pilot and a rear gunner (at the time they thought it would actually protect the aircraft).

EDIT: when they switched from a single MG17 to the twin setup ("Z"-something) they were belt fed. They had to be, because they were side by side and the magazines wouldn't fit.

frank3 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2007, 02:47:24 PM »

Aah yes, the Z (MG181?) zwilling is what I meant

About the 110 being a 3 seater, I read that somewhere, I'll have to re-check my sources though
(But the large cockpit glazing fit for 3 men must mean something!)

Krusty · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2007, 05:01:21 PM »

Just looked it up. It's called the MG 81Z, and some were belt fed and some were drum fed (supposedly drum fed was more common, but I don't have a photo/diagram showing how a drum fit over both guns).