Author Topic: Art Help (Read 1131 times)

TinmanX · « **on:** February 25, 2007, 02:57:57 AM »

I've had this painting hanging on my wall for a couple of years now. Whenever I search for any information on it, I come up blank. The only painting I can ever find by the artist is the famous Spitfire. Not once have I ever been able to get any information on him paing a Hurri and yet here it is, on my wall.

Any help out there would be great!

Mustaine · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2007, 03:04:52 AM »

hmm link won't work

use this in google search EXACTLY

"barrie a. f. clark" hurricane

with the quotes, and find the link
http://www.prints.co.uk/artist1.htm

but click on the "Cached" link right below it to see the page

Major Biggles · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2007, 07:53:34 AM »

wow, gorgeous painting, very nice...

mussie · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2007, 08:01:36 AM »

Is that a 2d... ?

Krusty · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2007, 11:36:37 AM »

Yep

2Ds had the underwing gondolas for 40mm Vickers guns. They were removed and bombers were put on the same hardpoint, if desired.

Sketch · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2007, 12:04:03 PM »

Here we go Mustaine....
This is what is on the page...

'Baders Bus' (ref: ARL 001)

Barrie Clark's evocative painting of the 242 Squadron Hawker Hurricane Mk1 flown by Sqn Ldr Douglas Bader DSO DFC when he commanded the squadron based at RAF Coltishall in 1940.

The print is signed by Barrie Clark.
Image size 12" x 24" printed on 300gsm acid free board.
Price £25.00

TinmanX · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2007, 12:31:32 PM »

And there-in lays the problem. The painting is of a 2d and the description of the print is a mk1 plus, the dimensions of what is on my wall is 22" x 33"

1Boner · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2007, 12:57:37 PM »

is that a print (poster) ??

or is it a real painting??? (on canvas)

i have a pretty good size print by clarke in my living room.

guy does superb work!!

if yours is a actual signed painting, i would imagine it is worth quite a bit of cash.

TinmanX · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2007, 01:12:39 PM »

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Originally posted by 1Boner
is that a print (poster) ??

or is it a real painting??? (on canvas)

i have a pretty good size print by clarke in my living room.

guy does superb work!!

if yours is a actual signed painting, i would imagine it is worth quite a bit of cash.

I have to say I'm unsure. I don't know if Clark worked in watercolour or oils. If he worked in oils it's a print as there is very little texture to the painting. The painting (print) itself is on a canvas 'box' which is nailed into the frame. There is no print number visible anywhere.

The story of how I got it....

My mother-in-law (Japanese) was adopted by a Naval Officer just after WWII and lived mostly in CA. While there as an adult her local bank closed down and they had that painint on the wall. She bought it from them thinking it was a Zero (don't ask me why). When I met her and saw the painting I told her it was a British Hurricane and later on she gave it to me as a gift

Sketch · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2007, 02:52:58 PM »

Tinman,
It could be a mass production print in which there will be no numbers. Kind of like if someone bought the rights to the photo and printed it and sold them. With my history of art, if there is no texture to it you're right it won't be an oil painting. ANd it is too dark for watercolor. Check the lines where the paint fades into one another and see how crisp it is. From what I see from your photo posted, I think it might be a print as I have a few that look the same way and have no numbers on them. Let me know...

Mustaine · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2007, 04:11:51 PM »

very rarely in the 60's / 70's were "prints" done on canvas that I know of. depending on the style of the artist, you can make a rather smooth oil painting too...

just not enough information to say.

the artist IS still alive according to this site , maybe you can attempt to contact him directly.

Sketch · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2007, 05:10:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Mustaine
very rarely in the 60's / 70's were "prints" done on canvas that I know of. depending on the style of the artist, you can make a rather smooth oil painting too...

just not enough information to say.

the artist IS still alive according to this site , maybe you can attempt to contact him directly.

The copyright for it could have been done after this. Just because it is saying it was done in 79, does not mean it was actually printed then. Oil paintings will almost have a distinct line pattern to it, no matter the artist. No if it was smoothed over, maybe no, but you will be able to tell an oil painting compaired to others. I am just wondering how that is actually on the paper. Is it actually paper or is it on canvas. Prints are done on both. Also wondering, how long have you had the picture Tinman? That will also play into the fact of it. Between us all I am sure we can figure something out....

EDIT: I just checked that site Mustaine, I have a Spitfire print of his.

But the wife-ack keeps hitting me everytime I try to hang it up...

Mustaine · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2007, 05:50:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Sketch
...Also wondering, how long have you had the picture Tinman? That will also play into the fact of it. Between us all I am sure we can figure something out....
EDIT: I just checked that site Mustaine, I have a Spitfire print of his. But the wife-ack keeps hitting me everytime I try to hang it up...

lol

he doesn't give a year, but the mother in law got it in CA at a bank closing, and from the sounds of it, she got it a while ago, then gave it to him later

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a bank in CA had the original, lots of original pieces of art are in such locations, not all are in museums / collections.

I could be totally wrong thong, it just seems to me if the painter is "known" for spitfires, an odd hurricane that is not well known probably wouldn't have a ton of prints made of it.

Sketch · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2007, 07:23:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Mustaine
lol

he doesn't give a year, but the mother in law got it in CA at a bank closing, and from the sounds of it, she got it a while ago, then gave it to him later

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a bank in CA had the original, lots of original pieces of art are in such locations, not all are in museums / collections.

I could be totally wrong thong, it just seems to me if the painter is "known" for spitfires, an odd hurricane that is not well known probably wouldn't have a ton of prints made of it.

Yeah a lot of pieces of art get 'donated' to banks and court hosues and such. I know the Navy Reserve center that my father ran in Wisconsin gave him about 6 original painitngs of ships and such... he has them hanging in his "I Love Me Room" no that he is retired.
You never know with art bro, hang on to it and keep it safe... might be your kids college tuition or something!

1Boner · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2007, 07:33:40 PM »

all right already!!!

i,ll give ya 20 bucks for it!!!

thats my final offer!!!!:cool: