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Offline Angus

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« Reply #690 on: September 24, 2007, 08:15:11 AM »
Only know sixpencers and tinhats :D But with Alcoa all over the turf, we do have a lot of foil around :D
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« Reply #691 on: September 24, 2007, 08:22:21 AM »
angus... my point exactly.. if someone told you that you had to cover all your car windows with tinfoil to stop the heat from getting out and causing global warming... you might understand how I feel about co2 and what has to be done to "stop man made global warming".

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« Reply #692 on: September 24, 2007, 10:07:14 AM »
Tinfoil would stop the heat from the sun getting IN. The glass keeps the air heated by the sunrays from getting out.
We have special glass in our house, a so called K-Glass. It lets the heat easier in than out.
A manufacture with applied physics, acting on the knowledge on how greenhouse effect works.
So, in my example, tinfoil cover would work like dimming (components from volcanoes like i.e. sulphur do that, the effect being that the sunrays do not reach the surface to heat) while darker surface (such as sea vs ice) will trap the heating effect, and then certain components (such as the effect of my living room window, C02, Methane etc) will bounce the heat back in.

I do not understand your "feelings" about the whole deal as any other than a hot-headed denial. Mine are different, - some concern about the whole business, with growing scepticism on the deniers, since their forts seem to be falling one by the other like Hortlund so promply put it.
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #693 on: September 24, 2007, 10:24:40 AM »
I had an email in this morning which is being sent around to any company involved in the reinsurance industry.  Lots of discussion and analysis on the effect of global climate change on the insurance industry.

If this whole GW thing was just hype as most seem to believe why would global reinsurance companies be concerned at all?

I suppose I'll just do what I always do and refer the very stupid people in the business of insuring catostrphic risk to this BBS so that you guys can educate them.

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« Reply #694 on: September 24, 2007, 10:46:59 AM »
I didn't know anyone was arguing that the globe was not warming up. As far as I've seen here, I think everyone agrees that it IS warming up.

What you folks have chewed on, mauled, swallowed and regurgitated for these hundreds of posts is the cause of the warming.

That question, I suspect, will never come to any mutually agreed upon answer.

But feel free to continue on and try to break the record for number of posts in a thread. Does the Voss thread still hold the record?
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« Reply #695 on: September 24, 2007, 11:09:07 AM »
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But feel free to continue on and try to break the record for number of posts in a thread. Does the Voss thread still hold the record?


So you are saying, "It's Voss stupid!" or have I misinterpreted?
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« Reply #696 on: September 24, 2007, 11:27:56 AM »
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I didn't know anyone was arguing that the globe was not warming up. As far as I've seen here, I think everyone agrees that it IS warming up.

What you folks have chewed on, mauled, swallowed and regurgitated for these hundreds of posts is the cause of the warming.

That question, I suspect, will never come to any mutually agreed upon answer.

But feel free to continue on and try to break the record for number of posts in a thread. Does the Voss thread still hold the record?


Was this in response to my post?

Might as well say "we" as opposed to "you folks"....no need to distance yourself from the plebs old chap.  

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« Reply #697 on: September 24, 2007, 11:39:53 AM »
Well, Curval, add up my GW posts and your GW posts in this thread and tell me which one of us is beating a long dead quadruped into atomised vapor with a nine iron.

28 pages on something that won't be definitively answered here or probably anywhere in the next 250 years.

But hey... go for it. See if you guys can get to 100 pages.
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« Reply #698 on: September 24, 2007, 11:49:29 AM »
Ummm....Toad, that was my first post and your second for this thread.

Interesting huh?  You automatically jumped to the conclusion I was beating a dead horse.
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« Reply #699 on: September 24, 2007, 01:07:17 PM »
Toad:
"I didn't know anyone was arguing that the globe was not warming up. As far as I've seen here, I think everyone agrees that it IS warming up."

Well, just a few months back you had folks debating the warming. Calling it local. This was the core of Hortlund's example of the deniers forts falling one after the other.
Now, on this thread, you still can observe how there is confusion thrown around about how or IF a greenhouse effect works etc etc. Then you will also see unsupported claims about the S-Pole increasing in mass as a contrast with the melting on the N-Hemisphere.

I will leave it as a teaser for you to ponder on why the N-Pole can melt away as NOW, while the S-Pole cannot be gaining mass. Very simple solution actually.....
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« Reply #700 on: September 24, 2007, 01:19:42 PM »
I'm sorry Curval; I must have mistaken this for one of the many other global warming threads.

I didn't bother to check; I'm sure your numbers are correct.

Can we both agree that this topic is pretty well worn out on this BBS?
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« Reply #701 on: September 24, 2007, 01:20:49 PM »
Angus, would you agree the basic argument, local or global, has been whether or not the warming is attributable to mankind?

If so, I think you'd agree that question will not be settled here.
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« Reply #702 on: September 24, 2007, 02:14:38 PM »
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I'm sorry Curval; I must have mistaken this for one of the many other global warming threads.

I didn't bother to check; I'm sure your numbers are correct.

Can we both agree that this topic is pretty well worn out on this BBS?


It is absolutely worn out...which is why I didn't post in this thread until today.  I would not have posted at all if I didn't just receive the email I mentioned a few minutes before looking at this thread.

Now...if lazs would stop posting in GW threads I'm sure we'd see the end of this topic for quite some time.
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« Reply #703 on: September 24, 2007, 02:20:24 PM »
Well, the longest journey begins with a single step.

I promise not to make any more posts in any thread based on determining if GW is manmade or a naturally occuring cycle.

Will you take the pledge?  ;)
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« Reply #704 on: September 24, 2007, 02:25:07 PM »
curval... are you saying that it is unusual for insurance companies to look at all possibilities of disaster no matter how remote?   Also... possible profit and loses?

angus... no one is saying that the planet does not heat and cool from time to time... it was very hot in the 30's   got cooler in the 50's and then hot again for a while and it has not heated up for the last 7 years or so...

None of this has anything to do with man made co2 however except in the most minor way...

far from the "deniers" being the ones who are being shot down it is the alarmist and hand wringers who's predictions and "science" are being shot down with every day...  

So far as the man made global warming alarmists and their long and short range predictions go... there is only one difference between their long and short range predictions.... we get to see the short range ones being proven exaggerated and wrong a lot sooner.

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