p40e

[hapvodka]

Any good P40e sticks out there? i love this little plane and have been having some success with it(currently enjoying just over a 1:1 k/d ratio) but i m sure some1 else out there could give me some pointers. thanks to anyone who is willing;

Hapvodka

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by hapvodka
Any good P40e sticks out there? i love this little plane and have been having some success with it(currently enjoying just over a 1:1 k/d ratio) but i m sure some1 else out there could give me some pointers. thanks to anyone who is willing;

Hapvodka

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- oldman

[B@tfinkV]

P40 will out manouver a hurricane2c if youre good.


problem with the p40, you have to win the tough fights fast, the longer you truning the more likely you are to lose.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by hapvodka
Any good P40e sticks out there? i love this little plane and have been having some success with it(currently enjoying just over a 1:1 k/d ratio) but i m sure some1 else out there could give me some pointers. thanks to anyone who is willing;

Hapvodka

I saw you up in one recently. I was climbing up to you in a TBM, trying to lure you into attacking me. There were other guys who kept interfering with my plans. Eventually, it worked out and I was able to engage, peppering your P-40. However, some cannon armed dweebasaurus cherry picked you (gotta be one lame boy to steal kills from a TBM, eh?).

I have to give you credit, you were certainly bold taking the WSC to a mob tho...

(WSC = Whistling Sh-t Can)

I fly the P-40E fairly often in the TA, so I'll tell what I know.

The cons:

1) It does not have much speed.

2) It has the worst stall departure of any AH2 fighter.

3) Acceleration can be measured with a sundial

4) Below 150 mph, it absolutely wallows like a drunk on an ice rink

5) Relatively small ammo load.

The pros:

1) Excellent high-speed handling, good roll and good instantaneous turn.

2) Excellent dive.

3) Good range on internal fuel.

4) Steady gun platform

5) High-speed flaps.

Combat suggestions:

1) Get some altitude and try to keep it. E-management is essential. Slow P-40s are usually dead P-40s.

2) Avoid excessive flap use. Killing E is problematic as it takes a long time to replace. Turn nose low when ever practical to maintain your E. When you get to the deck, you have to be very careful about maintaining speed.

3) It zoom climbs well enough to be effective in the vertical to a limited degree, however.

4) Don't get roped by trying to extend a zoom climb too far.

5) Don't turn-fight with a TBM, it will kick the P-40's butt.

I am providing a link to a P-40 film. I was working with Shooter and I elected to switch from a P-38G to the less capable P-40E. You will see all of the P-40's weaknesses and some of its strengths during the 9 minute film. Shooter did a good job of trying to keep the fight in the vertical. Thus, the P-40 pilot must work very hard. The film is a 3 meg download... I'll leave it up for a week or so.

P-40E vs P-38G

My regards,

Widewing

[hapvodka]

thanks to all who responded.

widewing i watched the film and it was a good fight..you def fight the p40e very diffrently from how i do it.  i tend to come in with alt and dive down on a target..if the target manuvers too much i just zoom back up and reposition(this is because of the "hordes", in a 1-1 id keep fighting).  i noticed u were constantly turning inside of the p38 and that wasnt too much of a suprise either..ive managed the same. I think the biggest diffrence in my fighting style(or lack of) is that while u were almost constantly trying to gain alt i just try and maintain the same alt/lose alt very slowly. I think i trade away alt too fast but sometimes it works.  

Ps about the tbm deal-i saw you trying to climb to me and was doing my utmost to ignore you;)  I didnt want an "Easy" kill becuase i dont learn anything from it..but once u attacked me i had no choice.  If i had known it was a good stick in the tbm i would have targeted u on my intitial dive in;)  i think i was also already comminted down low and thats why i had to try and turn fight you...i m not sure but i dont think i had much in  the way of alt to work with either....thats my biggest problem in the p40e i think..i get low too fast and it costs me dear.  anyways thanks for the info and the video and next time i see your tbm its on:aok

[FiLtH]

I fly the P40E quite a bit. Like any plane it takes some time in it to get used to it. Flying it in the LW its about survival. Learning how not to be hit by bnz. Frustrating them to the point they get greedy and lose the advantage.

    I set my conv at 275. Save the ammo for a good shot. Like I said, its about survival, and avoiding their fire, and planning their demise in the 3rd or 4th attack by them. I fly it very defensively. Not something you think of when so much of fighter combat is about leading the fight.

    When people attack you turn 3/4 of the way into them. Not head-on, but almost. Yank and flap just as they close. Gives them a lousy shot. Dont reverse on them. Dont follow them verticle. Break off in the opposite direction and let them continue till they screw up. Then kill them.

  Flaps...use them alot and often, and then again.

  Lead...shoot 1 plane ahead of where you think you should fire. Most shots are below the nose. I prefer to let the guy show me the top of his wings in a turn before I fire.

  Its a tough plane, it can take a few hits, Chances are when you do get hit it will be a flap. Often times its better to get it hit when lowered, than when up. Dont even try to flap if one was damaged in the up position. Makes it all floppy.

   Don't chase people up. Wait until they get greedy and you have nursed your E state to save some for a puruit verticle, when they are slow. In their mind they can still out climb you. But if you dont over pursue (such as keeping gunsight on them while climbing) and instead follow them up with them at the very top of your screen, you will most likely catch them at the top and blast them as they wingover.

   Im in game most nights. Give a shout and we can goto the DA and do some P40 stuff. Mainly the "how not to get hit stuff".

[Balsy]

What filth said, except convergence at 200.

balsy