Author Topic: Jimmy Page Riff To Save Rock & Roll (Read 904 times)

Frodo · « **on:** March 06, 2007, 07:57:56 AM »

While Iommi refused to say when the vault would be opened, hard rock sources believe it will take place just prior to next month's Fall Out Boy–Honda Civic tour, which many fear will suck the remaining lifeblood from all that still rocks.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/unreleased_jimmy_page_guitar_riff

This is so funny! For someone my age anyway, and who has a 16 yr old daughter, that listens to Fall Down Boys.

Frodo

LEADPIG · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:14:31 PM »

Being a musician myself i have a vested interest. The current suckiness in music started when Nirvana came out, before that everyone could play guitar for real and were serious musicians but they just looked really silly. Enter Nirvana who proved with alot of the grunge bands that you didn't need to be a technically proficient musician if you played with raw intensity and you played from the heart and you wrote music that had basic good melodic content. Now you have 2007 in which all the honest intensity has been wrung completly out of above ground rock and as usual you have to look to the underground to find anything at all interesting. The truth is this alot of the people that buy records today do so because that's all that exists because record companies will copy something add nauseum that has a resonable chance of success, because if the last garbage worked this new garbage band should sell too. Then people buy it because thats all they have and they don't know any better what they want. Then some guy like Kurt Cobain comes along and gives them what they really want but they didn't know they really wanted. They drop the old stuff like hott potatoes, the record companies copy it add nauseum again and then you have people in the underground doing stuff different again then that becomes the new thing. Repeat process again.......the next person that will light up our lives musically has probably already been born and is learning to play guitar now, but the record companies won't listen to them cause they don't sound like the current crap and they wallow in obscurity wasting their talent untill someone with a clue recognises it, and the record companies repeat the same mistakes over again. Why because some fat rich guy in a suit is deciding what's good music and what to invest his money in and he has no idea. So in the end money is the route of all music suckiness but in this world as it is it's a neccessary evil. Enter Fall Out Boy.

mars01 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2007, 04:41:54 PM »

Well led at least now we know all your taste is in your mouth!

LEADPIG · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2007, 04:47:52 PM »

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Originally posted by mars01
Well led at least now we know all your taste is in your mouth!

Hey Neervana rocked ............wait you like emo

Your Truly
Deadpig

mars01 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2007, 04:49:42 PM »

You probably hated Punk Rock too, right??

ChickenHawk · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2007, 06:10:51 PM »

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Originally posted by LEADPIG
The current suckiness in music started when Nirvana came out, before that everyone could play guitar for real and were serious musicians but they just looked really silly.

Truer words were never spoken.

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Originally posted by LEADPIG
because if the last garbage worked this new garbage band should sell too.

Hey, don't be dissin Garbage. That Shirley Manson is a hottie.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2007, 06:24:36 PM »

I lost a lot of respect for Page. Reading "Hammer of the Gods" only reinforced it.

Prime Example of ego:

While mixing the Led Zeppelin DVD, Kevin Shirley had to butt heads with Jimmy Page. Back in their prime Jimmy Page masked the guts of his amps with false head covers. This was brought up while mixing the DVD. There were parts of the footage where Shirley would ask Page: "What amp were you using, so I can better blend the mix. I can replicate whatever amp you were using." Page: "You'd like that wouldn't, so you can tell everyone what I using. You really would wouldn't you?" Shirley pretty much knew what amps he was using, and did the best job he could have done.

nirvana · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2007, 09:15:37 PM »

I think music might have gone down with "nu-rock", there have always been crappy bands, there have just been more recently. Actually I don't know, I'm only 17. There have been some good recent bands though, Elliott Smith, Rage Against The Machine, Rammstein, Alice In Chains.

I went to the recent Alice In Chains concert and even with the absence of Layne Staley, the crowd was outrageous. You could hear the music, but the crowd was even louder and that's what live shows are all about, the energy.

I guess the Unplugged Nirvana album was just a bunch of crappy guitar riffs strung together and played so loud you couldn't tell the difference between chords.

Rant off.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2007, 09:20:43 PM »

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Originally posted by nirvana
I guess the Unplugged Nirvana album was just a bunch of crappy guitar riffs strung together and played so loud you couldn't tell the difference between chords.

Rant off.

Cobain was a horrible guitarist.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2007, 09:23:30 PM »

Wow....ummm, yeah.....uhhh...gonna stay outta this one.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2007, 09:26:10 PM »

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Originally posted by mars01
You probably hated Punk Rock too, right??

Cept for a very few songs
Most punk rock sucked.

thats why you dont hear much of it anymore

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2007, 09:29:34 PM »

Just like every other style of music, punk music has branched off into many different subsections. Now a days it's very hard to classify plain punk rock. Especially with the emo fad going around.

LEADPIG · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2007, 11:09:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Cobain was a horrible guitarist.

But he was a creative songwriter with what little he had, hence your hard pressed to find a guitar player today who can play a small semblance of a guitar solo, yet they have none of Cobain's talent for simple melodic songwriting that was raw and energetic at the same time. Jimi Hendrix for example technically was not a good guitarist but in the department of creativity i don't think he has yet to be matched. He totally redefined how to look at something in a time when nobody was doing anything close to what he was doing. He looked at the instrument as a way to make sound and was not wrapped up in how his hands could play it. Some of those sounds which btw i don't know how he thought of in the dry sounding guitar days of the beattles where before him the guitar was basically played clean with no interesting effects to it, all of a sudden he's making his guitar sound like the Vietnam war in a time where nobody understood it and there was VERY little amp technology to do it. Machine Gun for instance has nary a sweep arpeggio in it, but who cares, it is one of the rawest, from the heart, soul grinding, performances i've ever heard. Jimi reached deep in himself to describe alot of pain that we all were experiencing and to sum a whole group of peoples experiences up to make them feel it or give voice to human emotion is one of an artist's primary jobs. Jimi and Cobain were excellent at both.

LEADPIG · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2007, 11:12:45 PM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Wow....ummm, yeah.....uhhh...gonna stay outta this one.

Diablo Tx we have a couple things in common, i was born and raised in the great state of Texas, and Stevie Ray Vaughn was the ****, and was one of the best blues guitarist i've ever known. That man had more heart than he knew what to do with.

Dinger · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2007, 01:24:29 AM »

Nirvana was a decent band -- not the best, nor the most original of their "scene". Then they signed with Geffen. Geffen, being a business genius, told them not to lay on the distortion pedals all the time. They broke through. Suddenly they were stars, having gone from sub pop to top of the pops in the course of a year.

Ignorant press types started calling them "Grunge." They were never "Grunge", they replied. "Grunge" is the sound a band like the Melvins put out.

"Ooh, so the Melvins are to Nirvana as the Misfits are to Metallica?"

Clearly there's no reasoning with these people. Then they publish your guitar tabs, you do an "MTV Unplugged" bit, and everyone starts referring to you as "the artist".

They don't understand or care about the scene, the context of your sound, or even your own strengths and limitations. What's left to do?

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And crappy musicians have rocked like thunder long before Nirvana. Have you listened to any Black Sabbath guitar solos recently? Iggy and the Stooges learned to play "on the job", and yet their first album is a recognized classic.
On the other hand, Rush puts out these precious pieces with weird time signatures and Dungeons and Dragons-inspired lyrics, and they just don't move the masses.

The Onion article is hilarious, btw