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Offline Ripsnort

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A tenured professor of religion at an astute college turns out to be a 24 year old. So much for using Wiki except for "that site that likes to re-write history". :rofl

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 01:45:12 PM »
I see that NASA canned Lisa Nowak today... maybe she can fill that spot. :D

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 01:52:07 PM »
Anyone who takes wikipedia as fact needs to have their head examined.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 01:56:29 PM »
for day to day items of interest i find it pretty valuable.

for instance, lets say i need to know who this person is that so and so referenced...but ya, it's gots some flaws on the details for sure.

perhaps if it were more like the urban dictionary with user ratings?
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2007, 02:09:54 PM »
i enjoy reediting it to make the content funnier
also, on some topics it provides better related links than google

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2007, 02:56:12 PM »
For once Debonair is right.  The internet has become so vast that it's often difficult to search for anything, due to the millions of results for everything.

One of the first places I turn is to Wikipedia, not as a source of information, but as a source for other sources.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 03:12:05 PM »
Next thing someone will be saying I can't believe everything I read.

Wanna bet?  :eek:
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2007, 03:13:36 PM »
Halo, you cant believe everything you read.

Just didnt want to leave ya hanging like that,  would have been sad....

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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2007, 03:17:29 PM »
I'll go along with 88, deb and Laser.   I use wiki to get started but havent never relied on it.   Alot of the content I see (most WW2 aircraft stuff) is copied verbatium from other sites.  and thats nothing new either.  
3 years or so ago I looked up some stuff for the A-26,  I found probably 10 sites that had the same entries word for word, and the same pictures,  all of them looked liked they had been copied from the USAF Museum website.

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For those of you who used Wikipedia to help shore up your arguement:
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2007, 03:36:05 PM »
Nature magazine did a study last year where they compared Wikipedia to Encyclopedia Britannica.

They chose a series of random articles that existed in both and had them extensively scrutinized by teams of experts, and had some interesting results.

The Britannica articles had slightly fewer errors, and the Wikipedia articles were slightly longer, but they were roughly equivalent in accuracy.

The Essjay situation that started the thread was a disgrace, and he was asked to resign and his access rights were revoked.  The community was furious about it, and a discussion about how credentials should be verified at certain levels in the project.  I think it's telling that in this entire mess, there's been no evidence that he used his false credentials to insert false information.  Apparently he waved them around in some discussions to win editorial arguments, but the accuracy of the data  in the project was not affected.

Despite this, the reaction has been quite telling.  As I see it, there are a number of people out there that have a bone to pick with Wikipedia because of a personal slight (perhaps their article was deleted or something like that) or assume that it must by necessity be terrible because they can't imagine that the anonymous editing structure would allow for quality.

To the latter, I urge you to go check out some articles on subjects that you know about and decide for yourselves.  For the former group, give it another shot, things change, and maybe other areas of the project might still be useful to you.  There's plenty of room.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2007, 03:39:24 PM »
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Alot of the content I see (most WW2 aircraft stuff) is copied verbatium from other sites.  and thats nothing new either.  
That is absolutely unacceptable.  Find me an example and I'll take care of it.  I'm an administrator on Wikipedia, and copyright infringement is possibly the biggest danger to the project.  We are merciless with violations, but need help.

Wikipedia is not MySpace.  It is an online encyclopedia built in the model of the 'Cathedral and the Bazaar', and depends on proper GFDL content.

I recently added a bunch of pictures to aviation related articles from my visit to the Dayton, OH Air Force museum, and I have yet to encounter a copied photo in that area, but if you know of any, let me know right away.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2007, 03:50:25 PM »
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Anyone who takes wikipedia as fact needs to have their head examined.


So all books and magazines are WITHOUT QUESTION the "authority"?   Got it marked down here, thanks.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 04:12:08 PM »
All you ever need to know:


   http://www.conservapedia.com/

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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2007, 04:21:31 PM »
*GASP*  You mean people intentionally rewrite history?

I HAD NO IDEA.


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