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« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2007, 08:15:50 PM »
BTW... doesn't seem to be just me that's looking at this one as being a bit odd mac.

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« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2007, 08:20:55 PM »
At the risk of "blowing the cover of a government employee", please see the following . . .

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Prior to employment, applicants must also receive security clearance and pass medical and drug screening exams . . .
Hired employees enroll in a 12 week training program . . . in Oklahoma City

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AWMAC Location:  In Oklahoma under the witness protection program.



I won't claim to know much about security clearances, but I do know that SI, TK and G are all caveats, which I believe restrict the data the clearance covers to very specific subsets.
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« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2007, 08:26:40 PM »
Security Clearances

Confidential-
The simplest security clearance to get. This level typically requires a few weeks to a few months of investigation. A Confidential clearance requires a NACLC investigation and must be renewed (with another investigation) every 10 years.

Secret-
A Secret clearance, also known as Ordinary Secret, requires a few months to a year to fully investigate depending on the individual's activities. Some instances where individuals would take longer than normal to be investigated are many past residences, having residences in foreign countries, or have relatives outside the United States. Bankruptcy and unpaid bills as well as criminal charges will also increase the time of both the investigation and approval. A Secret clearance requires a NAC/LAC/Credit investigation and must be reinvestigated every 10 years.

Top Secret-
Top Secret is a more stringent clearance. A Top Secret, or "TS", clearance, is often given as the result of a Single Scope Background Investigation, or SSBI. Top Secret clearances generally afford one access to data that affects national security, counterterrorism/counterintelligence, or other highly sensitive data. There are far fewer individuals with TS clearances than Secret clearances. A TS clearance can take as little as 3-6 months to obtain, but more often takes 6-18 months, while sometimes taking up to 3 years to obtain. The SSBI investigation must be reinvestigated every 5 years.

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« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2007, 08:28:55 PM »
Oh... you're missing a bit there E.

This was a top secret TSSBI SBI SCI, SI, TK and G clearance.

Background check security clearance has been standard for most government jobs prior to employment for a couple of years. It came around as a result of so many failing the background check. This has nothing to do with the rated top secret clearances being mentioned... and I guarantee none of it happened based on a Q&A session. 12 page forms with invasive questioning on backgrounds followed up with actual interviews of references and complete histories of all direct relatives. That's just to get your foot in the door. The rest is applied for and granted as needed.

The list above looks like someone read a book listing various security clearances and picked the highest one he could find.
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« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2007, 09:00:24 PM »
Dude, seriously, even I've had a secret clearance because I worked for a government contractor when I was 20.  It's not really that big of a deal.  All it meant is that, even if I knew what I was looking at that day, I was about a month ahead of Aviation Week.

My question is

What does it matter to you? It's not like Mac is some girl with bogus pics of a hot girl inviting you up for a wild weekend and when you go she turns out to be Jabba the Huts twin sister. Or, do you like, have a crush on him or something?

Just asking :D
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« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2007, 09:05:24 PM »
I'll take a crack at that...

Because we have had guys in the past that have really pushed the envelope of believability. Voss, and who was that dude that claimed to be a sniper and challenged everyone to a fight? Sometimes it just gets out of hand.

I don't know AWMac, but I have to admit I thought it was weird he went to such great extent to list all the clearances he had. Seemed to be the antithesis of what a guy in that position ought to be doing. Of course I didn't serve, and I might be totally off base, but something seems off about that.

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« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2007, 09:32:11 PM »
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I'll take a crack at that...

Because we have had guys in the past that have really pushed the envelope of believability. Voss, and who was that dude that claimed to be a sniper and challenged everyone to a fight? Sometimes it just gets out of hand.

I don't know AWMac, but I have to admit I thought it was weird he went to such great extent to list all the clearances he had. Seemed to be the antithesis of what a guy in that position ought to be doing. Of course I didn't serve, and I might be totally off base, but something seems off about that.


understandable.. but to take the time to make such a big issue out of it *shrug*I'm thinking either A) ignore it or B) get a freaking hobby.

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« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2007, 09:46:59 PM »
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« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2007, 10:11:38 PM »
dichotomy,

Part of the issue is that anyone who has actually been read into special access programs was also briefed on the obligation to proactively guard not only the information, but also to report potential vulnerabilities.  One such vulernability which mac would have been briefed on if he was in fact granted access to special access programs, is that people blabbing about how they have this or that access are likely to be either fishing for information or are setting themselves up to become compromised.

There is a requirement, by law, for anyone with a clearance to report these vulnerabilities.  If Mac has the clearances he is bragging about having, he knows this already and he is still online bragging about how he has access to all these programs.  That makes him either a liar or a potential security vulnerability.

The problem is that he's so damned stuck up, he can't take a hint and STFU.  He is convinced it's him against the world, that people are out to get him.
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« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2007, 10:12:36 PM »
Krypto,

Dude.

Get some therapy, check into rehab, whatever.  Please don't commit social suicide in these forums.
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« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2007, 10:45:25 PM »
ok first off the guy is happy about his new job. if he screwed up by posting it here then thats none of anyones bizz. congrats on the new job sounds fun.
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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2007, 11:15:43 PM »
1st rule of fight club, don't talk about fight club.

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« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2007, 11:48:25 PM »
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1st rule of fight club, don't talk about fight club.


Exactly :aok

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« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2007, 12:06:29 AM »
go ahead & use my Rolling W until you get things straightened out if you want

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« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2007, 12:06:31 AM »
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
Dude, seriously, even I've had a secret clearance because I worked for a government contractor when I was 20.  It's not really that big of a deal.  All it meant is that, even if I knew what I was looking at that day, I was about a month ahead of Aviation Week.
Secret and top secret are two completely different thing. I don't expect you to know that and I'm not suprised that mac doesn't either.