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Offline Hap

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« on: March 09, 2007, 02:34:52 PM »
Quite a compelling read.

It's not a superfical "bad Dick Cheney" story.  

Midway, the bit about Wyoming, from what I've picked up living here for a few years, is spot on.

All this sort of reminds me of the hippies is a very wierd way.  That is cranky idealists (regardless of what their ideals look like) can get so insular, turned in on themselves, that with the right set of events, it all gets very wrong within a decade or so.

Thinking of the neocons also, disaffected hawkish democrats.

Yes they existed before caricature politics became a very damaging art form helped by 24/7 tabloid news needing something to say to lure viewers and bamboozle advertisers.

Then there's the whole Hearst-like spooky side to it all.

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1597226,00.html

There's the link.

The lesson I take away from it is it's not about knowing the most, or knowing the right thing to do, but if people are willing to submit themselves to the entire political process of checks and balances that characterize the American experiement.

Though I'm very much in favor of knowing the most, and knowing the right thing to do.  

Republic or Democracy.  Of course we're a bit of both.  And when the pedulum swings both sides have their weaknesses.

All the Best,

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Offline WhiteHawk

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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 03:01:37 PM »
Shocking.
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Offline Mickey1992

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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 03:01:38 PM »
Good read.
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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 04:32:31 PM »
I am sure there is no bias there at all ...
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 05:19:04 PM »
if Time were to print that the sky is celestial blue I wouldn't believe it.
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2007, 05:48:42 PM »
Seriously,

Am I the only one that doesn't drewl and caw over this administration that just thinks this story is a whole lot of hype and very little umph.  Nothing has been proven, just a bunch of assumption based conclusions that get a certain brand of people frothing at the mouth jumping for joy.

I really do not get it.  I don't see the connection.  I don't see the libby thing as grand evidence.  This is grasping at straws here for somthing that assumes to exist to begin with.

Do I think the VP is a great guy.....No.  I agree with many of the initial opinions of the link that he was the safe choice for Bush.  Do I think he's an evil man.....no.  Nothing leads me to that conclusion.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2007, 06:03:43 PM »
I'm ambivelent regarding the current administration.  I'm sure Time magazine is a nest of communists.
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Offline Mark Luper

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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 06:26:41 PM »
I'm sitting here wondering just how much of the article to believe.

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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2007, 06:35:11 PM »
Let's see, Michael Duffy, graduate of a liberal arts college, Oberlin College in Oberlin, Ohio, writing for the Times....

Yeah, I see no partisan politics on his journalism.  :rofl
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2007, 06:50:25 PM »
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Let's see, Michael Duffy, graduate of a liberal arts college, Oberlin College in Oberlin, Ohio, writing for the Times....

Yeah, I see no partisan politics on his journalism.  :rofl


The writing itself is standard nowadays.  Create contraversy where there is none.  I happens on both sides.  Seriously I don't see the point to this story.
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Offline Kieran

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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2007, 08:09:58 PM »
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Let's see, Michael Duffy, graduate of a liberal arts college, Oberlin College in Oberlin, Ohio, writing for the Times....

Yeah, I see no partisan politics on his journalism.  :rofl


WTF?! Where would a guy go to journalism school, pray tell?

They don't have technical schools for journalism. Of course he went to a liberal arts college. That doesn't automatically assign bias to his writing. It'd be wiser to examine his body of work to determine bias.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2007, 08:37:39 PM »
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WTF?! Where would a guy go to journalism school, pray tell?

They don't have technical schools for journalism. Of course he went to a liberal arts college. That doesn't automatically assign bias to his writing. It'd be wiser to examine his body of work to determine bias.


98% of all journalists vote democrat.
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Offline Shamus

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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2007, 11:31:46 PM »
Well liberal arts has the word liberal in it, therefor all those schools are commie :), wonder what that bastion of socialism Hillsdale liberal arts college would have to say about that?

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2007, 11:36:34 PM »
You have to understand, they think there is only 2 proper "journalists".
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2007, 11:53:34 PM »
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You have to understand, they think there is only 2 proper "journalists".


Wow that's actually a compliment to them.  You realize that right?

PS  My friend you do realize that neither of them are journalist right?
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