Gen. Pace weighs in on gays in the military

[straffo]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
but Homos arent black or Jewish...well ok Some of them are
but not as a whole.

Being black is a race. Being jewish is a Religeon.

Homosexuals are only birth defects.
 

Does it imply that no people are black or jewish at birth ?

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by straffo
Does it imply that no people are black or jewish at birth ?

Your talking apples and oranges

Or cornbread and bagles and apples and oranges

whichever you prefer.

[Kieran]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Ok

"Love thy neighbor as you love thyself"

Do you wash you body? Keep it fit? Care for your wounds? Do you feed it, nurture it, and protect it from harm?

Do you examine your activities and judge whether they are right or not according to the word of God? Do you live by his law?

You misunderstand (or misrepresent) this passage. It means to hold others to the same standards as you hold yourself. No higher, no lower, the same.

[Kieran]

Originally posted by eskimo2 I’m far from an expert on the bible.  However, I kind of recall something Jesus said about not being too judgmental and eager to cast stones.  I guess we all remember and focus on the parts that fit how we think and believe. [/B]

Once again, while I don't discount you know these people, can they really make an impact of the magnitude seen on the poll? I doubt it.

Not being judgemental or casting stones means to leave ultimate judgement to God. Practice forgiveness where possible, but it certainly does not mean, as you seem to be suggesting, condoning or supporting sin. We are all still responsible for what we do.

As far as the final statement, maybe. But if you are as steeped in the Bible as I think you must be given your background I don't know how you get the sense the Bible allows us all to pick and choose what we want to hear.

[BlkKnit]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Kieran, if I recall, the main part of the bible that condemns homosexuality is the same part that forbids shaving, gives advice pertaining to sex with slaves, talks about stoning blasphemers to death, and so on.  Is all of that still in effect too?

YES!  

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Kieran
Do you wash you body? Keep it fit? Care for your wounds? Do you feed it, nurture it, and protect it from harm?

Do you examine your activities and judge whether they are right or not according to the word of God? Do you live by his law?

You misunderstand (or misrepresent) this passage. It means to hold others to the same standards as you hold yourself. No higher, no lower, the same.

It was a joke

[Curval]

Yea!  Another thread to give the homophobes a chance to bash gays.

Fun!

I think that gays in the military should all be forced to have "hands laid on them" to cure them of the immoral behaviour they engage in.  Then they could be good Christians who always have the moral high ground.  Don't hate the sinner...HATE the sin.

[SirLoin]

"Those who know what's best for us..Must rise and save us from ourselves"


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[Gunthr]

do any proponants of open service for gays in the military have a problem with transexuals serving openly?  I'm interested in whether there is a common philosophical thread that would explain the rationale....

[storch]

I thought this was a thread about whether the left would attempt to end the career of a decorated veteran for speaking his mind, on a personal level about a problem within the US military.  how does this involve others who are neither in, have never been nor will ever be in the US military?  it doesn't concern you foreigners.  continue to mess up your societies and remember that when America wants your opinion, America will tell you what it is.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Gunthr
do any proponants of open service for gays in the military have a problem with transexuals serving openly?  I'm interested in whether there is a common philosophical thread that would explain the rationale....

Is there a hypocritical "Don't ask, don't tell" policy in place regarding transexuals?

[VOR]

Originally posted by Curval
Is there a hypocritical "Don't ask, don't tell" policy in place regarding transexuals?

If you're asking if boys can come to works dressed like girls, the answer is no. As for off duty, I don't think it's specifically prohibited but I don't care enough about it to get you a certain answer.

[lazs2]

I don't think the general is correct that homos are immoral.   It is not immoral.  

I think he has every right to say what he believes tho.

I also think that it is a bad idea to have homos in the military.

I have no problem with consenting adults and their sexual preferences..  I don't want to be involved in some of those practices tho.  I didn't consent to being part of it... be that just watching public displays of affection or having to room with em in a barracks.

lazs

[Curval]

Originally posted by VOR
If you're asking if boys can come to works dressed like girls, the answer is no. As for off duty, I don't think it's specifically prohibited but I don't care enough about it to get you a certain answer.

That's okay...I was asking Gunthr.

[Chairboy]

Males and females serve together in the military, and while there are occasional problems, all in all the military has somehow avoided turning into a great big orgy.

If the existing rules about appropriate behavior were enforced, and I can't think of why they wouldn't be, I guess I just don't see the problem.  If two guys had a relationship, seems like that'd be exactly as inappropriate as if a male and female did.  What's the difference?