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Offline Kieran

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« on: March 14, 2007, 07:58:25 PM »
What is a bigot?

Honestly, and without venom, I want to know what a few of you guys think that really is. As the last thread was locked down because of that venom, I am challenging a few of you progressive fellows to state your case without the invective.

I don't know if honest debate is possible here. I surely hope it is. All I've seen from a few guys is a great deal of malice.

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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2007, 08:19:18 PM »
A bigot is someone who judges others based on their own ignorance and arrogance instead of observable fact.

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2007, 08:23:23 PM »
A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own.

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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2007, 08:24:33 PM »
"A bigot is one who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ believing they, as a group, deserve special treatment above and beyond everyone else."
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2007, 08:29:46 PM »
"a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion."

And I also found...

"One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. "

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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2007, 08:33:03 PM »
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A bigot is someone who judges others based on their own ignorance and arrogance instead of observable fact.


As opposed to a racist who does judge others based on observable fact?
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 08:35:28 PM »
webster says:


bigot

Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
- big·ot·ed /-g&-t&d/ adjective
- big·ot·ed·ly adverb


interesting that they use "hypocrite" as a derivative.  saw that in a few instances.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2007, 08:36:55 PM »
a bigot is someone you disagree with.

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 09:27:10 PM »
Hi Kieran,

Mirriam Webster works for me:

bigot

Main Entry:
big·ot
Pronunciation:
\?bi-g?t\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
French, hypocrite, bigot
Date:
1660
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed  \-g?-t?d\ adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb


The 1st definition hits it spot on.  A great problem we have today is a lack of discrimination.  We need more, not less, of the sort that allows someone to distinguish between sorts of things.  And reason needs to be formed rightly and not allowed to become overgrown with weeds and the like.

Again, MW to the rescue:

discriminate
One entry found.

discriminate

Main Entry:
dis·crim·i·nate
Pronunciation:
\dis-?kri-m?-?n?t\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
-nat·ed; -nat·ing
Etymology:
Latin discriminatus, past participle of discriminare, from discrimin-, discrimen distinction, from discernere to distinguish between — more at discern
Date:
1628
transitive verb1 a: to mark or perceive the distinguishing or peculiar features of b: distinguish, differentiate 2: to distinguish by discerning or exposing differences; especially : to distinguish from another like objectintransitive verb1 a: to make a distinction b: to use good judgment2: to make a difference in treatment or favor on a basis other than individual merit


Again, the ability to differentiate.  Good old Aristotle's "Quiditas."

Great question.  I'm afraid to look what folks have said though.  Guess I will after I click.

All the Best,

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p.s.  I can sense your dissapointment and frustration.  This isn't the pool in which to search for honest discourse.  It does exist however, and I am ever cheered when I see and read it.  It's just a tad on the rare side.

BTW, I hear Aristotle and St. Thomas are making a comeback.  Good for those whomever they maybe who assist in that endeavor.  And Kieran, we share an important thing or two in common.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2007, 10:06:11 PM »
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As opposed to a racist who does judge others based on observable fact?


By definition racists are bigots.  They are just blind to some observable facts.

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2007, 10:11:46 PM »
MS Word synonyms for bigot:
extremist
diehard
dogmatist
racist
hypocrite
chauvinist

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2007, 05:38:15 AM »
I suppose I am one of the people being accused of malice and venom, which is ironic.  

I'm curious though, why the need to define "bigot"?  In the thread that got locked the only person I see using that word is you Kieran.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2007, 05:58:43 AM »
Main Entry:
big·ot
Pronunciation:
\?cur-val\

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2007, 06:05:13 AM »
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Main Entry:
big·ot
Pronunciation:
\?cur-val\


lol

Yup, that is pretty much the way this thread is heading.
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2007, 06:08:38 AM »
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