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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2007, 02:12:06 PM »
I have a Colt National Match AR-15 I bought new just before the clinton sponsored ban went into effect. I also later bought a Ruger mini 14. Both are fun to shoot, the mini 14 is actually lighter (and less accurate). I still have more fun shooting the Garand compared to the other two. Got to find more 06 surplus ammo.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2007, 02:17:07 PM »
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I still have more fun shooting the Garand compared to the other two.
cool..what year and model of garand do you have? they sure jumped up in price...i got a 1943 springfield 30.06 garand...and its my fav gun to shoot out of my collection:) semi auto...big round...big boom...and the sound of the clip clanging out at the end of 8 rounds is priceless:)

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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2007, 02:21:14 PM »
I perfer my Type56 Carbine with the 7.62 x 39mm round.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2007, 02:51:26 PM »
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Got to find more 06 surplus ammo.


.30 US and Greek surplus

The Greek stuff is nice ammo.

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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2007, 03:24:50 PM »
Wait till you see the Mk16 SCAR... It basically makes the AR-15/M16 obsolete.

Oh, and I have had the good fortune to examine both the Mk16 and 7.62mm version, the Mk17.

First issue will be to SOCOM next year.

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2007, 03:25:44 PM »
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I perfer my Type56 Carbine with the 7.62 x 39mm round.


Prefer it for what?

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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2007, 04:59:46 PM »
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Prefer it for what?

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Self defense from burglers and home born terriosts. Fun shooting and charging hay with they bayonet. The nocking power of the 7.62 x 39mm is just awsome. Will I would perfer it because its the only military type rifle I have. Maybe I'll get an AR-15 soon. I would love a Kar-98k rifle though.
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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2007, 05:44:32 PM »
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April? I was under the impression that it was already going on, but I just have hearsay.


They say they won't even accept orders until April 30.

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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2007, 07:48:32 PM »
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Self defense from burglers and home born terriosts. Fun shooting and charging hay with they bayonet. The nocking power of the 7.62 x 39mm is just awsome. Will I would perfer it because its the only military type rifle I have. Maybe I'll get an AR-15 soon. I would love a Kar-98k rifle though.


Well, the SKS is a fun rifle and a decent general purpose weapon. A good plinker that could be pressed into home defense or hunting. They are generally reliable and ammo is cheap and plentiful.

The limitations include less than average accuracy, short pull stock milled from really crappy wood. There is the risk of slam-firing the entire magazine if the firing pin sticks forward due to power residue fouling (seen that happen too often). So, I suggest cleaning the bolt every 200 rounds or sooner while at the range. 15-30 seconds of gunscrubber spray will do the trick.

If you prefer a long arm for home defense, see if you can find a used Marlin Camp 45 (.45 auto) or Camp 9 (9mm) carbine. About the size and weight of a Ruger 10-22, it will stop bad guys without over-penetrating. Both will accept oversize mags (single stack only on the Camp 45). The Camp 9 uses S&W mags, but there are high capacity mags available.  These are simple blow-back rifles, so reliability is excellent. They are, however, more complicated to tear down and reassemble than the SKS. This is due to a trigger/mag interconnect. No mag in the gun; trigger is locked-out.

Other good carbines for self-defense are the lever action Winchester 94 Trapper (16" barrel) or a used Rossi 92 SRS in .44 or .357 mag. I prefer the Rossi as the action is super-slick and super fast. Most full pressure .357 mag cartridges out of a 16" barrel will stop any two legged critter instantly. You can get 2,300 fps out of handloads, which is in the 30-30 and 7.62x39 class. Not bad for a 5.5 lb rifle.

Your SKS is perfectly adequate, if not ideal. However, you cannot beat it for the price. BTW, if you remove the bayonet, the SKS is much better balanced and not so muzzle-heavy.

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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2007, 08:45:03 AM »
It's not that I don't want one, it's just pretty far down the list. There are just too many rifles that do what the ar-15 will and more that are in the same price range.

If you think about it, the ar15 design is like an elderly invalid. It doesn't feed so well, it doesn't eject so well, and it soils it's self.

My next evil black rifle will be either an arsenal slr107 or a robinson arms xcr. The xcr really looks promising, and afordable, the semi auto that is. I haven't seen a price for the class III version but I'm sure it's ridiculously high.

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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2007, 08:49:29 AM »
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After dragging one around Iraq for 14 months, I can say that while it is a lighter, more handy weapon than some, The M-16/M-4 has a serious flaw...it's direct impinging gas-blowback action.

CptA

The mind boggling thing about it is that after 40 some years this most glaring flaw has never been fixed.

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« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2007, 11:27:45 AM »
For the last episode of The Sopranos coming Sunday June 10, Tony is hiding out in a family war, and what does he take for max protection?  

Not a shotgun.  

Not a magnum revolver.  

Not a semiauto pistol.  

Yes, what the experts say you always take when you know there's going to be a fight: a powerful carbine or rifle, in this case, an AR-15 or something like it.

Tony dozes off in his upstairs bedroom snuggling with his war rifle.  Things look bleak for the last episode.  

See if you can figure out exactly which gun it is next week in the climax.
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« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2007, 01:19:48 PM »
I put a ak comp on my sks last week. It cost $18 and made the sks feel like my Wilson combat ar15 with the recoil. I recommend any sks owner to go out and buy one today.

SKS is my pig killer of choice. The ar is just a safe queen and i was thinking about selling to to build a varmint AR for deer clean up.

I have been looking for some new rounds in 7.62. A soft hollow point is what i am trying to find but everyone is out. The last pig i shot was on the run and the dam thing wouldn't go down. Shot two pigs both running one had 3 bullet holes and the other 2. They were just pencilling and not expanding. Had to go and put both of them down with the .22....

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« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2007, 02:18:20 PM »
the m16 family all crap where they eat.   filthy guns.

I have not been interested in em but the new .50 beowulf conversion sounds real good...  very tempting.

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« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2007, 02:20:58 PM »
Tony has a dmps ar10.