Anyone Not Want an AR-15?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

The AR is okay, but I'm just not a big fan. If I did one it'd be some sort of 7.62mm based weapon.

[Maverick]

I've got an AR15 with the factory national match heavy barrel. I bought it new when the magazine ban was enacted. When it comes down to it I much prefer to shoot my old surplus M1 Garand. I guess it's the history behind it but it just feels better to shoot. I'm sure the AR has far better accuracy than the pitted and dark bore on the M1 but I still prefer the Garand.

[g00b]

A couple of years ago I bought a Kel-Tec SU-16 which is a semi-auto .223 with an 18.5" barrel. Ammo prices were rising then, and are astronomical now for .223 at over 20 cents/rd. I have no problem firing several hundred rounds in a shooting session which means $40-$80 for a couple hours of fun...

The .223 is a nice round, but not THAT nice. I rather be shooting .308 or 7mm mag or any other higher performance round. 223 used to be fun when there was cheap military surplus to be had. But it's price/performance ratio just ain't there any more.

That's why I invested in some serious bolt-action .22 stuff, more accurate than just about anything, at a fraction of the price. Now I'm looking for a nice bolt action .308/7.62, any thoughts?

Maybe a nice M-14? mmmm...

[FX1]

Try a Tikka in 300 win mag. You will need a muzzle brake on it. Couple of my friend purchase the Tikka and like it. These guys were shooting a Custom remington 700 and a Sako and were comparing them to the Tikka.

[Excel1]

The Tikkas are nice rifles. The CZ 550 UHR is another good rifle in .300 Win Mag. At only 8 pounds in weight un-scoped, and with a 24 inch barrel it has hunting rifle dimensions but has target rifle like accuracy... minute of angle accuracy guranteed at 1,000 yards straight out of the box; assuming ammo, scope, and shooter are up to it. I have one on order, just need to pick out a scope for it.

[lazs2]

LOL charon... when they raid you they will talk about the whorde of "thousands" of rounds of military ammo for your assault weapons at your "compound"   and your anti government writings on BB's

if a democrat gets in only tho of course...   BTW..  is there any requirements to buy the ammo from the CMP?

I hated the way the HK 91 and 93 had the fluted chamber that screwed up the brass.   I wonder if the 417 does.

Mav...  I got to admit.. I love shooting my garand too.   everyone does it seems... it is always the most popular rifle when I take people out shooting.   Mine seems very accurate.

lazs

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Halo
Friend of mine bought a Rock River Arms AR-15 in .223 cal / 5.56 mm.  I've rented one at the local indoor gun range and enjoyed firing it several times.  Its ammo seems effective, plentiful, and affordable.  

This type also comes in .308 and other calibers, and quite a few variations with even more variations of supplemental equipment.  Seems like this design can do just about anything.  

After reading a lot about the AR-15 family, the question that comes to mind is why would any gun enthusiast NOT want one?

I'm married and unfortunately do not have a Money Tree.    "Wanting something is a lot different than necessity."

[Charon]

LOL charon... when they raid you they will talk about the whorde of "thousands" of rounds of military ammo for your assault weapons at your "compound" and your anti government writings on BB's

if a democrat gets in only tho of course... BTW.. is there any requirements to buy the ammo from the CMP?

The 5000 rounds of 22 rimfire will put it over the top Add to that my putting in a privacy (I mean perimeter) fence on my patio (I mean drill field) several years ago...

What do you need that much ammo for one might ask... Well when you go to Sam's club, why do you buy enough toilet paper to wipe your bellybutton for a 1/4 year Same reason, only an even greater cost justification. Big difference between ammo at  20 cents per round and ammo at $1 per round. If I had the time I would go to reloading to save even more, but since I can afford my habit to date given the amount of range time I can squeez in I will wait on that.

As for the ammo, I THINK you have to go through the usual CMP requirements. After that, it's just log on to the e store and submit an order. A fair deal on de-linked Lake City and Greek 30-06 on clips in bandoleers. And when the surplus runs out and I make the move, a lot of brass for reloading. About average prices on anything else as well. For me, the advantage is that they will ship to Cook County unlike virtually all other vendors (even though it's technically legal with a faxed FOID card on file).

Charon