Scared Bishop's

[Doberman]

Originally posted by Sweet2th
Look at it again, you will see as i line up on 1 of them they all go the other way, or they try to HO.
 

Really?  The video is so disjointed that it's sorta hard to tell what exactly is going on, but  I see you fail to turn what seems to be an advantageous position into any sort of a guns solution at all while they just tool on their merry way, obviously on to bigger & better things.

Looks like an example of good squad cohesion to me.  No need to abort whatever mission they mighta been on solely for a pair of guys who neevr showed that they were any real threat.

[detch01]

I suffered through your whole film and didn't see one HO attempt. Without the intro you gave it in this thread I would have assumed you were just taking pictures of the mission rather than attacking it.  I did see you (I assume that was you in the 109) pass up at least two golden opportunities, one of them would have given you a high speed pass through their formation and even if you didn't bag one or two doing it you'd have split the mission up and likely created a few opportunities for kills.

FYI, the 109's are really quite agile. You might want to attend Widewing's CT prep school to see just what the 109's can do at alt.



asw

[kilz]

Originally posted by Sweet2th
Look at it again, you will see as i line up on 1 of them they all go the other way, or they try to HO.

LTARkils: You only get 65 rounds of 30mm in that K model so you have to make them count.As soon as i commit on 1 the others will move on me, have to stick & move in that situation.It's just typical that the bish dove down on the easier targets.

Last time i checked a Fighter Sweep mission was for sweeping an area and clearing it of all enemy planes, this must just be an example of how the Bishops' do it.


BTW: Kills are not what i am after in this GAME anymore.I am after the bomber formations up High, if i run into someone at High ALT that is doing the same thing as myself thats even better for it's turns into the second thing i look for in AH; the High ALT duel.The kind of Duel that lasts for more than 3 mins. and doesn't include HO-N-GO tactix and after it's over the front lobe of your head is pounding from the FUN.

ok bro first off i have never known the bish to do a fighter sweep thats just funny the first time i heard it. bish dont do fighter sweeps they might have put a mission together to go attack a base and turn into a big furball between the bases but thats about it.

so you saying if a plane dives on you with the same alt you had on all those planes that you wouldnt move you would just sit there let me answer that for you ya you would.

I know how many rounds a K4 carries trust me storch kills me all the time i count his rounds.

well glad to hear another say its not about score but flying at ALT like that what where you 20k. you want high alt fighting take a P47 on in your 109K4 at 30k see how the real pilots did it in WWII wasnt easy like your diving in and climbing out. at 330k your 109 will stall left and right.

[Warchief]

LOL That was the funniest thing I ever saw. The onyl part that is funny is you thinking it was a fighter sweep. If it was a fighter sweep I dont think you would have posted a film of you getting shot down.

I think it was a squad mission and were after something more important then 2 Cons as stated periously who made no attempt at trying to kill them. Hell everyone time you dove down in to so call "Engage them" and they made a slight turn to engage you pulled back up. Before you can say someone is running away please show us something that shows you engage a fighter and him run.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Sweet2th
This funny stuff now.9 Bish runnin from just 2.

[Sweet2th]

Originally posted by detch01
I suffered through your whole film and didn't see one HO attempt. Without the intro you gave it in this thread I would have assumed you were just taking pictures of the mission rather than attacking it.  I did see you (I assume that was you in the 109) pass up at least two golden opportunities, one of them would have given you a high speed pass through their formation and even if you didn't bag one or two doing it you'd have split the mission up and likely created a few opportunities for kills.

FYI, the 109's are really quite agile. You might want to attend Widewing's CT prep school to see just what the 109's can do at alt.



asw

So your as blind as stevie wonder now?You don't see Birddog1 making HO Passes in a La-7?


FYI- that wasn't a squad mission.

FYI-I have been a part of many fighter sweep missions on the Bishops side.

FYI-There are many ways to fly the 109.

[TequilaChaser]

the raw film footage might be helpful here, 1HungLo,  to  fill in the missing parts....


if  it was a mission or what not, funny how they all together at the beginning and at or near the end they all flying off in different directions....also the film is a bit misleading at the start, because you have no sense of speed (E) when cons come in to view, 1HungLo is slightly below or co alt with the 109s,  after he gets closer/engages and drops below  them , does he show his speed when looping back over.

notice in the film that as he initially comes in on the 109s , they are dropping alt as well (prehaps to build their speed ? ), so when he gets to them he just rolls over and comes in.......

( really be nice to see the ahf file of this video clip )


hard to believe 9 vs 2 and the nine did not  attempt to kill them except for the La7(which did fire a frontal shot around 4:10 of the film ) and a cple of 109s,  they started out together, ended flying off in different directions, and hard to believe noone lost their plane from either side......

(was this choreographed?)


did anyone watch the clip more than once?  did anyone truly analyze the clip?

a video clip leaves alot  to be desired when  talking about dogfighting.........raw film is the way to go.....


1HungLo, don't  just quote asw, heck seems I am the only one who sees it from er perspective, everyone else wants to slap ya down.... prob because the way you titled the videoclip and the thread.... them chess piece loyalist fixing to hang ya and you be hunglonomo.......the film is a tad hard to follow got to watch it  more than a few times


the ahf film will backup your FYI's maybe........


not alot of excitement from the video point of view, not any low upclose knife fighting , don't see no fires, but geez people  9 bish should have tore these 2 up or at least got 1 of them........and what the heck can 9 109's do in a mission ( as in attacking/Jabo mission?) they either on a fighter sweep or was enroute to escort some buffs

[TinmanX]

Wow, that's like 5 minutes of you pulling Immlemans and never once making a successful merge despite there being a sky full of red. Didn't see a Head On.

Interesting film. Aces High as viewed on an Atari?

[VooWho]

The La7 took a quick head on shot towards the end of the video. You will see tracers fly pass the 109.

[detch01]

Originally posted by Sweet2th
So your as blind as stevie wonder now?You don't see Birddog1 making HO Passes in a La-7?

I saw the La take two shots sort of in your direction from in front of your 3-9 line, both times he didn't have a solution. That doesn't qualify as a HO, not in my books. A waste of ammunition certainly, but not a HO. Although it probably will qualify as HO for the crowd who figure any shot taken at them from in front of their 3-9 line is a HO. Maybe you can sell this to them. GL with that.

FYI- that wasn't a squad mission.

I didn't say anything about a squad mission, I said mission. Do I care if it was all formed up using the mission editor? No. A bunch of players in the same ride going in the same direction, more or less in a coherent gaggle is most likely a mission.

FYI-There are many ways to fly the 109.

Yes there are, I am hoping you discover one of them.
You pop onto these boards with a link to a film and some comments aimed at belittling other players and inflating your ego yet the film doesn't support your story. WTG your leetness


asw

[Sweet2th]

LMAO @ hunglonomo

I have no way of hosting the raw footage or i would have.I would have prefered putting up the raw footage then you would see that they indeed ran away.

Just because i am not kill hungry and need wtg's from others to enjoy my 15$.After playing AH this long i have developed patience to wait for the shot i want.....The 6 shot.....which few in this " GAME " actually go for anymore, but there are others like myself out there.

[Atoon]

ALL generalizations are stupid, even this one.

[xbrit]

You missed the main point
WHO REALLY CARES !!

[TinmanX]

Originally posted by VooWho
The La7 took a quick head on shot towards the end of the video. You will see tracers fly pass the 109.

Yup, I saw that and yet that wasn't a HO.

A HO, in the simplest terminology is when both aircraft can get guns on each other at the same moment and no lead is needed. The 109 was nose down, the LA would have to nose down and lead to even have a chance of hitting.

[sgt203]

Saw bunch of red planes, 2 freindlies..

Neither side actually trying to press very hard to kill the other..

It looks to me as if you were ignored for the most part...

I have flown Fighter Sweeps as BISH to head to uncap a base in trouble (the are actuallly quite fun)...

I have been in missions (whether or not sqaud missions) where our flight has been "uncovered" by one or two bad guys... It is nothing to send off one plane ( possibly the La) or two to keep the bogeys dancing a bit while others stay on target...

It would be nice if any bish who was part of that flight would post as to what they actually were doing (just fo the sake of having both sides of the story)..

Although to me it basically looks as if the bish planes ignored your two planes without hearing the other sides point of view its all speculation.