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Offline Meatwad

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« Reply #120 on: March 22, 2007, 05:34:45 PM »
He-111 or the TU-2
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« Reply #121 on: March 22, 2007, 05:35:12 PM »
I'd really like to see a Russian Bomber in the set

then the Brewster

B-25

P-39

Then another German buff  He-111 or 410
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« Reply #122 on: March 22, 2007, 05:40:11 PM »
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LLama, as said the KingCobra was mostly used in the Manchurian front, which probably isn't the most prominent front on this game. Total of 2400 P-63s were received in Russia for that purpose. /EDIT


I'm sorry. I didn't realize we were talking about WWI battlefronts - just use in WWII itself. When has battlefront popularity ever been an issue?

If 2000 P-63's were used in the Manchurian front, then there were still 2000 of them used in WWII, compared to, say, the 200 C-Hogs ever built, or the 67 TA-152s ever built, the 200 or so ME262s that made it to combat units.

At a minimum, there were an order of magnitude more P-63s in the war than C-hogs.

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« Reply #123 on: March 22, 2007, 05:42:44 PM »
That is very true, and I don't dispute it.

I just want to see Brewster before P-39 & P-63 :)

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« Reply #124 on: March 22, 2007, 05:44:42 PM »
Im going with the G55 and the B25
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« Reply #125 on: March 22, 2007, 05:47:22 PM »
You know, now that I think about it, what I'd love to see is a Ki-100.

It was basically a ki-61 airframe but with a powerful and reliable radial engine, and two cannon and two MG. Later models were purpose-built for the radial, and had a bubble canopy. What resulted was, to, again, quote wikipedia because all my books are at home:

"The Ki-100 was soon encountered in combat by Allied forces, and it was rated by them as a first-class combat machine. A well-handled Ki-100 was able to out-maneuver any American fighter, and was (more or less) equally fast to them, specially at medium altitudes. In one encounter over Okinawa, one Ki-100-equipped unit destroyed 14 Hellcats without losses to themselves.[citation needed] The Ki-100 was also able to match the P-51D Mustangs and the P-47N Thunderbolts which were escorting the B-29 raids over Japan by that time, and in the hands of an experienced pilot, it could defeat them (the Army's Ki-84 and the Navy's Kawanishi N1K-J being the only other types able to achieve this). Against the B-29s themselves, however, things began to get difficult for the Japanese fighters, as the engine's performance decreased at high altitudes."

"Although slow in level flight for 1945, Ki-100 could dive with P-51 Mustangs unlike most Japanese fighters and hold the speed on pullout. The cannons had 250 20x94 mm rounds/gun, each projectile weighing 112 g (armor-piercing) or 79 g 12% high explosive. Muzzle velocity was 700 (730 HE) m/s (2,300 ft/s; 2,400 ft/s) giving an effective range of 900 m (2,950 ft). The 850 rounds/min firing rate decreased by roughly 27% when synchronized through the propeller. Still, it remained fast enough (620.5 rounds/min) even by Western standards. The wings carried 250 12.7x81 mm rounds/gun. Each machine gun bullet weighed 35.4 g AP (33-38 g 2.2%HE) and had a muzzle velocity of 760 m/s (770-796 HE) (2,450 ft/s; 2,500-2,600 ft/s) giving an effective range of 750 m (2,460 m). Rate of fire was 900 rounds/min. Unlike nearly all other Japanese military aircraft, the Ki-100 was not given an allied codename, a very glaring omission considering that the aircraft was frequently encountered in combat during the last months of the war."

This also seems like most of the work is done, in the form of the KI-61 we already have...

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« Reply #126 on: March 22, 2007, 05:48:57 PM »
Although the P-39 is my sentimental favorite, there is a serious lack of Japanese, Italian and Russian Aircraft in the set. To all of you, voting for the Buffalo, plz put aside sentiment for a moment and replace it with practicality. Though it would be nice to have (as all the A/C on the list would), there is NOT a pressing need for it at all IMO. Even in scenarios/events it wouldnt be a desirable A/C to be assigned to (except for a handful of our Finnish population). Just my .02.

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« Reply #127 on: March 22, 2007, 05:50:35 PM »
I'm all about either the A-26 or the B-25. Preferably the B-25.

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« Reply #129 on: March 22, 2007, 06:10:55 PM »
Has to be the G.55

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« Reply #130 on: March 22, 2007, 06:13:32 PM »
<----------------Ki-44 shoki allied code name Tojo.  My pick
I've noticed there's one nut that seems to fly a 39 and actually get kills in it. I'm not sure what's wrong with them...

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« Reply #131 on: March 22, 2007, 06:14:03 PM »
what is the fastest? is the Brewster fast? if not i think ill vote the G.55 :)


Also whats got best guns?


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« Reply #132 on: March 22, 2007, 06:14:22 PM »
P-39


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« Reply #133 on: March 22, 2007, 06:16:03 PM »
i don,t see a  problem with the brewster being added to the ah line up.

however i think it will probably wind up being used mostly in ew  &  mw arenas.

it will probably get alot of use at 1st in all arenas

but when the "newness" wears off, it will go the way of the jeep.

i think the p-39 will get more extensive use.

i read a pretty good story on the brewster,called "the sorry saga of the brewster buffalo".   pretty good article.

just type in a search for it.

the brewster also made it into BOTH worlds worst aircraft books.

personally i don,t think its a bad choice

it just wouldn,t be my 1st choice.



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« Reply #134 on: March 22, 2007, 06:17:32 PM »
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