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Offline 1K3

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« on: March 22, 2007, 07:24:52 PM »
For those who want P-39 ....
btw i want Japanese fighters (ki43, ki44, J2M3, Ki100) 1st! ;)


Most representative lineup of P-39s.



P-39D
U.S. Version:

245 lb of additional armor, self-sealing fuel tanks. Armament increased to 1x 37 mm cannon (30 rounds), 2x .50 cal (200 rounds/gun) and 4x .30 cal (1,000 rounds/gun) machine guns. Provisions for a single 250-lb, 325-lb, or 500-lb bomb under the fuselage.


P-39Q-30
U.S.S.R. Version:

wing-mounted 0.30 cal machineguns replaced with a single 0.50 cal with 300 rounds of ammunition in a pod under each wing. These wing guns were often removed on Soviet aircraft. P-39Q-21 had a four-bladed Aeroproducts propeller. The P-39Q-30 reverted to a three-bladed propeller because the four-bladed unit worsened directional stability.


PS:  P-39D should be classified as a US Army Aircraft, P-39Q-30 should be classified as Soviet VVS aircraft

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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2007, 07:27:07 PM »
Breaking the myth of P-39...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-39

It is mistakenly believed that the Airacobra was used as a ground-attack aircraft by the Soviet Union, the lack of a turbo-supercharger restricting it to low-altitude combat. In fact, the Soviets used it to provide top cover. The tactical environment of the Eastern Front did not demand the extreme high-altitude operations that the RAF and USAAF employed with their big bombers. In the relatively low-altitude operations in the East, the lack of a turbocharger was not as great a handicap. The low-speed, low-altitude turning nature of most air combat on the Russian Front suited the P-39's strengths rather than its inherent weaknesses. The second-highest scoring Allied ace, Pokryshkin, flew the P-39 from late 1942 until the end of the war; his unofficial score in the Airacobra stands at nearly 60 Luftwaffe aircraft.

A total of 9,584 were produced, with over half being sent to the Soviet Union under the Lend-Lease program.

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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2007, 08:02:57 PM »
How about a compromise smack in the middle of them both, the variant used by the most formiddable P-39 pilot of them all?

The P-40N "white 100", of Alexander "Sasha" Pokryshkin, 16GIAP




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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2007, 08:39:07 PM »
I got a better idea.How about bringing in the P-63.It never seen much action in WWII,but what the heck,we got turn fighting 163's,Niki's,which they only built about 400 of.So whats wrong with streching it a lil bit,and giving us the P-63.Some corrupt politician or crooked general took a kickback,and North American got the big contract,leaving Bell to wither on the vine.Some say the P-63 matched the P-51 in most areas.I had the pleasure to see both a P51[Old Yeller]and a P-63 flown in the same air show.Same pilot owns them both.In my opinion,the pony seemed more nimble.Can't blame the pilot,he flew both planes.P-63's ended up being targets for wax bullet shooting trainees.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2007, 08:49:17 PM »
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How about a compromise smack in the middle of them both, the variant used by the most formiddable P-39 pilot of them all?

The P-40N "white 100", of Alexander "Sasha" Pokryshkin, 16GIAP







You mean the P-400?
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2007, 10:04:22 PM »
Woops a mega typo.

 P-39N I meant... !

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2007, 10:06:06 PM »
... they should make the nose gun and its ammo the biggest and most plentiful that was used.
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2007, 10:06:28 PM »
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I got a better idea.How about bringing in the P-63.It never seen much action in WWII,but what the heck,we got turn fighting 163's,Niki's,which they only built about 400 of.So whats wrong with streching it a lil bit,and giving us the P-63.Some corrupt politician or crooked general took a kickback,and North American got the big contract,leaving Bell to wither on the vine.Some say the P-63 matched the P-51 in most areas.I had the pleasure to see both a P51[Old Yeller]and a P-63 flown in the same air show.Same pilot owns them both.In my opinion,the pony seemed more nimble.Can't blame the pilot,he flew both planes.P-63's ended up being targets for wax bullet shooting trainees.


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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2007, 10:09:04 PM »
no P-39N saw action in PAC, only P-400 or P-39D.  We can have P-39N for East front but why not P-39Q-30;)

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2007, 10:25:55 PM »
I'd say do 3 models.
D2
Q-30
400

Not much visually different.
 Since we have multi variants of other models I see no reason not to.

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« Last Edit: March 22, 2007, 10:30:26 PM by Bronk »
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2007, 10:44:42 PM »
They're short on time Bronk.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2007, 10:50:27 PM »
Agreed. Time is short. Expect only one for now.

Thing about the P400 is that it only had 60 rounds for the 20mm. Now, I dunno about you, but *I* can get a kill or two with that. Maybe some can't. Once that's gone, however, you're a sitting duck with no snapshot capabilities....


Still, probably better than the early loadout for the P39D's 37mm. It only had 30 rounds, increased from the P39Cs ammo count (can you imagine less than that??)



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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2007, 10:52:26 PM »
I'd say if they choose something with multiple variants, they'll likely do two or three, simply because it'll be easier than going back later and doing them.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2007, 10:55:04 PM »
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I wish I had better news for you on that Wmaker but I'm afraid we don't have a new kite for this release.  Unfortunately, the terrain work has just taken a lot longer than we anticipated and even then, we were only looking at another updated airframe to fit the schedule.

The good news is that we do agree with you that a new airframe is overdue and we were discussing that at our meeting this morning.  After this release that will be Waffle's next task while the rest of us put our collective efforts towards CT.  We decided that we'd let the subscribers pick the next plane so I've been thinking of some various ways to have a run-off poll on what that should be.  I'll be making a post on that in the near future.  Now would be a good time to get your Brewster lobby mobilized.:)


Waffle is going to start it "after" this next release. He would then have time till the following release to model it.
How long has it been since the last version?
I'd say give him time to do 3 models. It would be worth the wait.


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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2007, 05:45:40 AM »
Gaaaaaahhhh...

 We're falling behind the G.55 and Me410 lobby thread...

 
 This post must go up! (defiance towards the non-punt policy!)