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Offline fuzeman

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« on: March 23, 2007, 10:38:06 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2007, 10:40:37 AM »
That just means MS didn't offer enough bribe money.
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2007, 10:42:45 AM »
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Mintz wrote that there is "no compelling technical or business case" to upgrade to the new products and specific reasons not to upgrade.

and so children this was the beginning of the revolution to overthrow Lord Gates and his Microsoft minions
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2007, 11:40:02 AM »
I would bet that MS next response to this would be to tell all of the folks who provide ancilary software to put in a patch requiring vista if they want to maintain ability to use ms products.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2007, 11:41:07 AM »
I don't know about the government, but I sure don't want it. With MS track record of releasing OS before they are finished. Who would?
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2007, 11:45:44 AM »
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I would bet that MS next response to this would be to tell all of the folks who provide ancilary software to put in a patch requiring vista if they want to maintain ability to use ms products.


Then the governments will find Linux. Some already have.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2007, 12:21:24 PM »
Our government will not Fishu.  They are the most computer illiterate people on the planet.  It takes them 10 years to get a dang bid done.  Most computer companies do not want the business from the government due to the insane support requirements.

It really is pathetic.  There is one local agency here who is still using 486 based computers.  They have the fundng for next generation replacements, but cannot find anyone willing to quote 133 MHz Pentium systems to them.  Yeah, that is how old the spec bid is.  So they are going to write another bid.  In 5 years it will be ready, maybe.  Due to adminstration changes it will more than likely be 10 years before they get approved to submit the new spec for bids.

The government is a drop in the sales hat of MS.  OEM's is where MS's bread gets buttered and they are all over Vista.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2007, 12:26:42 PM »
We can't use Vista right now because there is no Novell support.


I've got 20 Novell servers and MS' answer is to switch to Windows servers.

Sorry but I have my handy XP Pro CD handy and I know how to use it.

Piss on Vista!
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2007, 12:59:27 PM »
I feel for people who get stuck with it.  Now that my office system is running Vista, I have even more sympathy.  I remember my old XP Pro system at idle had around 210 threads (not processes) or so running.  Vista, as stripped as I can get it, still runs over 430 threads at idle.

All the things MS is doing in background is rather scary.  I would not put anything you wanted to keep a secret on a Vista computer.  That is for sure.

Oh, and you have not had any real fun until you try and share something on a Vista box.  Or try to run a remote executable from the Vista box.  Let me tell you, it is a barrel of laughs.....NOT!!!!!  freaking IT nightmare is what it is.
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2007, 01:19:09 PM »
Just a quick question since quite a few here know about computers.  I am buying a new laptop once I get out of boot camp (I leave in 3 days) and I'm wondering since I can't get any with WinXP OEM on it anymore, if I can just do a format and put my old XP Pro CD on there without losing any features.  I'm guessing yes, since it's just an OS, but you never know.
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2007, 01:58:31 PM »
You can put any older version of windows on and it is legal. You will need to find the XP drivers to all your devices before you wipe it out.
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2007, 02:14:07 PM »
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You can put any older version of windows on and it is legal. You will need to find the XP drivers to all your devices before you wipe it out.



That's what I was figuring, but I had a hard time putting 98SE on one of my laptops that came with XP Pro.  The difference in 98SE vs XP Pro for installation and driver support was like the difference in the hills in Oklahoma vs Mt. Everest though.
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2007, 05:31:20 PM »
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Our government will not Fishu.  They are the most computer illiterate people on the planet.  It takes them 10 years to get a dang bid done.  


Not only that, but when they finally get companies to bid on stuff the margins are so small that the foolish company that wins the bid is likely to lose money.  Where  is the first place said company would try to cut corners?  The only place is post sales support, of course.

As a joke I once bid on a govt contract w/ only a 3% profit margin built in.   I lost.
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2007, 07:03:51 PM »
3%? is that all Lockheed is getting?
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2007, 07:08:28 PM »
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Not a good sign when the government doesn't want it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/22/AR2007032200787.html


I knew I had read this somewhere before! :)

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=200189

Regards,
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