Hard lock-ups

[Mister Fork]

Ever since I've upgraded my system, I've had problems getting AH just to run without locking up my computer.

I'm using the 84 nVidia drivers recommended from my last post, along with the AMD optimizer for my new AMD64 X2 4200+.

Any other recommendations? Now nothing works.  Yet Aces High is the only sim that won't play. All others work fine:

- Half Life 2 / Counter Strike: Source / Day of Defeat Source
- Battlefield 2142
- Armed Assault

When I install the older video drivers, should I run the detonator destroyer first then install the older ones?

[Mister Fork]

Still no joy. I can't even load the game.


HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!

[Bruv119]

I'm in a similar situation.

The game doesnt hard lock up though and i've tried so many different things to try and sort it out.  As you have said other games work fine with no problems at all.    My next big hope is to try the windows 98 compatibility mode with AH to see if that does anything for me.

My problem is random graphic anamolies that get sorted by alt tabbing and re loading the game back in.  Also when i end up back in game the lost udp switching to TCP message is there.  I've tried my old usb modem but does exactly the same as my new router.  Latest nvidia 8800 drivers,  dual core instructions followed, PCI bus set to 128 from 64.  Everything that people have suggested but the same thing still happens.

Just annoying as hell because it will work fine for hours of play and do it randomly.

[TwinBoom]

try older video driver

[Bruv119]

TB if that was directed at me the 8800 GTS card has the ones that came with CD, 97.92 i think, another set and the latest 100x beta ones that i'm using at the moment.

On both the same thing happens so i'm at a loss until they release a set that work or some geeky types actually write a decent set of drivers because Nvidia are lacking in that department.

I'm sure AH isnt on the top of their lists to sort any problems out with....

[38ruk]

Originally posted by Mister Fork
Ever since I've upgraded my system, I've had problems getting AH just to run without locking up my computer.

I'm using the 84 nVidia drivers recommended from my last post, along with the AMD optimizer for my new AMD64 X2 4200+.

Any other recommendations? Now nothing works.  Yet Aces High is the only sim that won't play. All others work fine:

- Half Life 2 / Counter Strike: Source / Day of Defeat Source
- Battlefield 2142
- Armed Assault

When I install the older video drivers, should I run the detonator destroyer first then install the older ones?

What are the other spec's of your pc? I see you have installed the AMD dual core optimizer , but did you install the amd drivers too? Ruk

[Krusty]

Silly question, but can you check your voltage, either through a mobo sensor software, or through the BIOS?

I had hard lockups once. Sound would repeat forever, last frame on the screen would stay there. No hotkey buttons would work, no CTRL ALT DEL, total hard lockup.

It turns out part of the problem was related to my PSU being a total "POS" -- overvolting my +12 and WOEfully undervolting my +3. Indirectly, I solved the problem by disabling the onboard NIC and using a PCI NIC (I guess that reduced the voltage requirements somehow, it was pretty messed up).

Anyways, when I got a good PSU later, the onboard NIC worked fine with no problems, no lockups, no nada no nothing.

Just thought I'd put it out there.

[Mister Fork]

Thanks for the tips guys...

PSU - ENERMAX 520w.  Cripies - that's half a kilowatt.  Bloody thing glows in the dark ...

Ruk - what do you mean 'other' AMD drivers?  Such as?  Perhaps that is the issue?

Twinboom- I've tried from 8X.XX to 10X.XX - all with the same effects.  The clipboard will start spinning and then it goes dark and locks up when I load up the game.

Bruv - at least you can play for hours... I can't even get it to load...

[38ruk]

Their is a  AMD  64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP , and a AMD Dual-Core Optimizer. Both need to be loaded for stability and can be found HERE.  

  Another thing i have found is if you have the dual core optimizer installed and the MS hotfix  Patch: KB896256 installed , it will cause crashing and lockups in AH . Good Luck Rukee

[The Fugitive]

I run the X800 XT, and I use the 6.14.0010.6648 drivers and have no trouble what so ever. Even with the hirez pack FRs run in the 70's with ease and no anomalies.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by 38ruk
Another thing i have found is if you have the dual core optimizer installed and the MS hotfix  Patch: KB896256 installed , it will cause crashing and lockups in AH . Good Luck Rukee

Removing the MS Patch KB896256 as 38ruk suggests above has lowered my lockups from just about every sortie to the rare lockup. Sometimes i can log on and go 3,4 5 sorties, log off without an issue. But other times I still get the out of the blue hard lockup where the video freezes and the sound keeps going and I have to reset the computer to get out of it.

edit:
Just wondering if the AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP works with a AMD Opteron™ Processor. Is it for both types of dual cores, is the X2 the same as the Opteron as far as this driver is concerned?

[Bruv119]

well the win98 compatibility mode hasnt done the trick.  

So has to be driver related somehow (even though other games work fine)

Homeboy if your in on this thread I would like to know what settings you are running the game with?

Driver version?  tried 97.92 and the other two currently on 100.85
Hi res pack  1024?
any Anti Aliasing?
anisoptric filtering?
V-sync  on or off?
Unlimited frames?
1680x1054
I havent pre loaded any skins or textures.

Thanks in advance

Bruv
~S~

[HomeBoy]

Originally posted by Bruv119
well the win98 compatibility mode hasnt done the trick.  

So has to be driver related somehow (even though other games work fine)

Homeboy if your in on this thread I would like to know what settings you are running the game with?

Sorry you're still struggling Bruv.  I guess I'm just lucky.  I usually don't get lucky (good luck anyway).   I haven't done anything special.   I do have all my settings in game to max (animated water, terrain distances, etc).

Driver version?  tried 97.92 and the other two currently on 100.85

I'm running 97.92.  I didn't even know you could run 100.  I thought 100 was explicitly for Vista.  Hmm, learned something new there.

Hi res pack  1024?

Yes, hires pack

any Anti Aliasing?

4X I think.  I use "Balance between performance and quality" setting.  I think that means 4X AA.

anisoptric filtering?

Again, I think "balanced" means "Yes" to this setting

V-sync  on or off?

Ditto.  "Yes" I think

Unlimited frames?

Yes.  However, it seems to be treated as set to 60fps.  It always seems to stay right on 60 even though I have the setting on unlimited.  I normally set mine to 60 but haven't done that at this point.

1680x1054

yes.  (1600x1024 actually)

I havent pre loaded any skins or textures.

I preload everything

Thanks in advance

Bruv
~S~

I doubt this helps you but I hope something in what I've told you does.   What about power?  Do you have a good PSU?  Is your 8800 getting proper power?  Cooling?  Any issues there?  How about Windows Update?  Are you running the very latest updates on everything?  (SP 2, etc.)  I keep my machine updated with everything MS offers (critical updates anyway).

Good luck to you my friend!
-mark

[Bruv119]

Hi again,

PSU is ENERMAX Liberty 620 Watt which is more than enough.  

Cooling I have an antec 900 case and it has huge bellybutton fans in there from all angles.  Temperatures all read fine.

In response to your question about getting a max of 60 FPS you will only get more if you turn off the vertical sync.  Havent played with this much as its nice and smooth at 60.  Can go between 110-150 using 300mb vid memory.

Latest updates from MS (for all the good they do)

I will try loading in the textures again but dont think it will make a difference.

[HomeBoy]

Sounds like you've tried everything that you can. I'm sure you have you contacted Skuzzy directly on this.  You might try rattling his chain again and see if he has any new thoughts.

It always seems to be the thing you rule out or don't consider in the first place.  I wish I could realize what that might be here.  It reminds me of the months that I tried to solve my disco problem.  I ripped my machine apart and rebuilt  everything several times to no avail.  It ended up being my router which I never even thought about.  I kept wanting to blame my machine and/or my ISP.  I ended up flashing my router firmware (for a completely different reason) and that fixed my discos.  Go figure.  Seems rather obvious to me now.

BTW, thanks for that tip on Vsync.  I confess to being completely intimidated by all that video speak stuff and just look for easy settings.  I would love to find somewhere people show how to set up all that stuff.  Can't seem to find anything like that.