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Offline BaldEagl

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« Reply #90 on: March 26, 2007, 03:03:35 AM »
Great sig material... please, keep it up.
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« Reply #91 on: March 26, 2007, 03:38:47 AM »
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Let's see them prove themselves true in the parts of the map I fly in.  


There we have it folks, the crux of Kweassa's rant.  His feelings have been hurt and he's lashing out.  

In his mind, he's a true "Elite Vet" and he's just been waiting for someone to mention him in one of those dreadful "Who's the best..." threads.  He runs home from work every day and flips on the computer just to see if someone has started one of those threads about him.  Of course he's sad and heartbroken when he doesn't see one so he quickly checks the trainer/help forum to see if anyone has posted asking for his help to fly such and such plane.  But sadly, this too does not happen and poor Kweassa is crushed.  After all these years without recognition as one of the "Elite" the burden has just become too much for our Kweassa to shoulder and he's lashing out with what amounts to a forum version of a 5 year old temper tantrum.

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« Reply #92 on: March 26, 2007, 04:58:06 AM »
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5) Gunnery- Hit hard and fast, killing quickly is a factor of gunnery, bad gunnery means slow kills. If you kill slowly your're going to get saddled, cherry picked and gang-banged no matter how good of a pilot your are.


4) Poor gunnery is death assured for the furballer, in a complex engagement if you cannot kill quickly you're going to get saddled, cherry picked and gang banged ALOT.

 


Welcome to my world..............

re the using your freinds as bait bit.............

I am never sure if I am or not doing this........... Quite often I see a 1 v 1 below me and will hover over it asking the fellow below if he wants me to intervene............if he says yes and I do then it must surely look like cherry picking.

If he says no and then gets shot down.....my next act will be to cherry pick his assailent.

On the other hand I may sometimes respond to some poor sap in a hopeless situation  (usually low, slow and serious out numbered) yelling for assistance. Thinking that my presence should turn a 3 v 1 into a 3 v 2, I blow E and alt to mix it only to find that the first "event" to occur is his demise. Thus its still 3 v1..........but not as I would have had it if I was unconcerned about clearing his 6.
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« Reply #93 on: March 26, 2007, 05:25:47 AM »
Ok, I'm very confused. Does this mean I have to get out of my D40 and go back to my D11 to get this thread closed???????????????:huh
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« Reply #94 on: March 26, 2007, 05:29:29 AM »
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........... Quite often I see a 1 v 1 below me and will hover over it asking the fellow below if he wants me to intervene............if he says yes and I do then it must surely look like cherry picking.

If he says no and then gets shot down.....my next act will be to cherry pick his assailent.

On the other hand I may sometimes respond to some poor sap in a hopeless situation  (usually low, slow and serious out numbered) yelling for assistance. Thinking that my presence should turn a 3 v 1 into a 3 v 2, I blow E and alt to mix it only to find that the first "event" to occur is his demise. Thus its still 3 v1..........but not as I would have had it if I was unconcerned about clearing his 6.
Tilt, what you do is how it should be for every pilot out there. With the exception of a 3 v 1. If I see it and I have the ammo/fuel I don't wait for a call for help. I just even the odds a little.

Kewessa describes one of three player types in AH. Pick the one that fits....

1) The score hounds: These people will fly for kills or bomb damage only. They won't EVER bail for troops or to defend another base. They will rarely intentionally put themselves in danger. They MUST land the kills they get. Score/rank is all important.

2) The furballers: These people love the fight. Even though the fight serves no purpose other than chest thumping. Score/rank means little to these players.

3) The full immersion player: These people will do anything it takes to defend or take a base. Bailing for troops, to jump in a GV, sacrificing themselves to kill inbound troops or to defend another base is not uncommon. Score/rank means nothing to these players.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2007, 05:34:10 AM by NHawk »
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« Reply #95 on: March 26, 2007, 07:11:49 AM »
"But isn't this exactly what you're doing here? You act like we should give you the AH Medal of Honor for throwing yourself in between the enemy and our women and children."

It's actually about BEagle bringing up something he wrote and which BEagle did not agree and BEagle and many others bashing him until he comes here and explains why he wrote what he originally wrote in tips for flying Bf110 successfully.  As Ack-Ack wrote earlier , why be so sensitive about it and bring it up like this?  He threw a stone in the darkness in frustration and it hit you? Some of you people obviously just searched for such reason to get at him. So sad.


"The full immersion player: These people will do anything it takes to defend or take a base. Bailing for troops, to jump in a GV, sacrificing themselves to kill inbound troops or to defend another base is not uncommon. Score/rank means nothing to these players."

I don't think that is actually a full immersion player. A full immersion player fears for his virtual life, and if he happens to be skilled as well, thus "secures all his advantages before attacking so that he would not need to use his superior skills to get out of that situation."

It's always hilarious when I run into someone who fits into this definition. I run half the map to get him and when I catch him (or her ;) ) I feel like a dog who chases a truck and finally catches it... :D


Numerous times I have been mixing it with low cons wanting somebody to come for help, and getting killed in this kind of situation is bitter. But when I think of reasons, the blame is not usually on those who have not come down to help me, but in myself and how I have got into the situation where I'm mixing it with multiple bogies with no hope of surviving, be there help available or not. Many times the skilled pilots choose another place the fight than that of greatest need of help but thats OK. Maybe they do not wish to fight desperately for a base that will be lost after they have left, or maybe they have that couple of hours before having to go to sleep and they just want some kind of easy entertainment in form of a nice furball with lots of targets. After that they land their kills, or they do not, and leave for bed. Beats me and I don't care really, but it is nice when they happen to be around and I can count on their professionalism.

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« Last Edit: March 26, 2007, 07:27:32 AM by Charge »
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« Reply #96 on: March 26, 2007, 07:30:13 AM »
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I'd like to take this time to confess.

It was me.....I'm the vet that refuses to fly under those conditions.  I can barely fight my way out of a wet paper bag, but I do like to type and to do all that typing I need to be away from the fight.

Nothing worse then dying while typing.


But despite my misdeeds I still refuse to quit!


Well, as long as you're confessing....  I can't fight my way INTO a wet paper bag!!!

But, why should I care. I'm having fun and fun, after all, trumps skillz any day for me. :)
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« Reply #97 on: March 26, 2007, 07:50:38 AM »
what's with the wet paper bag analogies?

it's well-known that none of you can ACM ur way out of an air castle!!

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« Reply #98 on: March 26, 2007, 07:54:17 AM »
you need to return so I can smack you around some more.

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« Reply #99 on: March 26, 2007, 08:19:34 AM »
Such frail egos Aces High has wrought unto this world.
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« Reply #100 on: March 26, 2007, 08:43:50 AM »
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Such frail egos Aces High has wrought unto this world.


Thankfully most of them fly too high to be of much concern.

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« Reply #101 on: March 26, 2007, 08:46:04 AM »
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Thankfully most of them fly too high to be of much concern.

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Why single out AKAK?  heee heee:D


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« Reply #102 on: March 26, 2007, 10:14:12 AM »
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3) The full immersion player: These people will do anything it takes to defend or take a base. Bailing for troops, to jump in a GV, sacrificing themselves to kill inbound troops or to defend another base is not uncommon. Score/rank means nothing to these players.


Full immersion players?!!  they bail to bring troops...sacrifice themselves?!!  I always thought at full immersion guys as the one who try to get home every sortie because they only have one life.

you seem to be describing the horde lemmings who for some reason believe there is a war some where on his computer screen and that he must "win" it....just to start all over again.
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« Reply #103 on: March 26, 2007, 11:31:00 AM »
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Tilt, what you do is how it should be for every pilot out there. With the exception of a 3 v 1. If I see it and I have the ammo/fuel I don't wait for a call for help. I just even the odds a little.

Kewessa describes one of three player types in AH. Pick the one that fits....

1) The score hounds: These people will fly for kills or bomb damage only. They won't EVER bail for troops or to defend another base. They will rarely intentionally put themselves in danger. They MUST land the kills they get. Score/rank is all important.

2) The furballers: These people love the fight. Even though the fight serves no purpose other than chest thumping. Score/rank means little to these players.

3) The full immersion player: These people will do anything it takes to defend or take a base. Bailing for troops, to jump in a GV, sacrificing themselves to kill inbound troops or to defend another base is not uncommon. Score/rank means nothing to these players.


i like this summary..though i agree "full immersion" probably needs to be replaced with "goal oriented"  or the derisive "win the war type" descriptor...

again...the arenas are set up so all can have their style of flying...what causes the conflict is the following secret....



you cant have success in one and fly the other style....



so for example...if im a furballer and i want to fight a score/rank guy...its not going to happen...he wont put himself into my environment (and i dont want to grab alt and fly the planes that might force a fight)....so i hate him and tell him he is a loser...

and if im a "goal oriented/win the war type" i hate the furballer who follows me around and wont kill the town or bring troops...i see them as useless...so i hate him and post that he is a loser...

and if im a furballer who loves to fight or score/rank guy...then i hate the goal oriented guy because he takes the bases and "ruins" the fight...plus he has made rude comments towards me about not bringing troops and pissed me off...

and if im a score/rank guy...im mostly quiet and dont post because it embarrasses me somewhat that i cant strafe down town in fiter mode because it screws my hit percentage or bring an m3 or goon because it ruins my sorties/kill/damage if i dont get the capture or die...plus everybody hates me so i hate them too...

and if im kweassa everyone hates me...dont have a reason for this but im guessing some previous posts...

but hey I, Falconwing, am hated by all too so dont feel bad...it is not for my l33tn3ss...but because i am C.O. of a squad which has ruined the game and destroyed the old MA...so dont feel bad...

there is only one AH type which is not hated...the newbie who keeps allowing easy kills and never types on ch 200:aok
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« Reply #104 on: March 26, 2007, 11:41:37 AM »
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i like this summary..though i agree "full immersion" probably needs to be replaced with "goal oriented"  or the derisive "win the war type" descriptor...

again...the arenas are set up so all can have their style of flying...what causes the conflict is the following secret....



you cant have success in one and fly the other style....



so for example...if im a furballer and i want to fight a score/rank guy...its not going to happen...he wont put himself into my environment (and i dont want to grab alt and fly the planes that might force a fight)....so i hate him and tell him he is a loser...

and if im a "goal oriented/win the war type" i hate the furballer who follows me around and wont kill the town or bring troops...i see them as useless...so i hate him and post that he is a loser...

and if im a furballer who loves to fight or score/rank guy...then i hate the goal oriented guy because he takes the bases and "ruins" the fight...plus he has made rude comments towards me about not bringing troops and pissed me off...

and if im a score/rank guy...im mostly quiet and dont post because it embarrasses me somewhat that i cant strafe down town in fiter mode because it screws my hit percentage or bring an m3 or goon because it ruins my sorties/kill/damage if i dont get the capture or die...plus everybody hates me so i hate them too...

and if im kweassa everyone hates me...dont have a reason for this but im guessing some previous posts...

but hey I, Falconwing, am hated by all too so dont feel bad...it is not for my l33tn3ss...but because i am C.O. of a squad which has ruined the game and destroyed the old MA...so dont feel bad...

there is only one AH type which is not hated...the newbie who keeps allowing easy kills and never types on ch 200:aok



I'm going to print this and keep it next to my toilet just in case I run out of TP.  At least this way I will feel this post has at least some merit and was not a complete pile of BS and waste of time.

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