Author Topic: Missing Aircraft by Production Figs (Read 969 times)

Ball · « **on:** March 25, 2007, 02:01:05 PM »

I thought that it would be quite good to get a list going of aircraft currently missing in Aces High, by their production figures. I was googling and found this: -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_produced_aircraft

The glaring omission from AH i think is this: -

Petlyakov Pe-2: 11,427

Brooke · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:13:34 PM »

I compiled production numbers for all the higher-production-number aircraft.

Here's the list.

Aircraft production in WWII

---- US ----

For the US, here are the production fighters, with numbers produced listed (from America's Hundred Thousand):

P-47, 15683
P-51, 15486
P-40, 13143
F6F, 12275
F4U, 11514
P-38, 10037
P-39, 9529 <--- not in AH yet
F4F/FM, 7905

For bombers (from https://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/AAFaircraft.htm and others):

B-24, 18190
B-17, 12692
B-25, 9186 <-- not yet in AH
A-20, 7385
B-26, 5157

TBM, 9837
SB2C, 7140 <--- not yet in AH
SBD, 5936

---- JAPAN ----

IJN aircraft from http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/ijnaf.htm and from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Japan%2C_World_War_II

A6M Zero, 10449
Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscar), 5919
Ki-84 Hayate (Frank), 3449
Ki-61 Hien (Tony), 3159
Ki-45 Toryu (Nick), 1701
Ki-44 Shoki (Tojo), 1225
A5M (Claude), 1094
J2M Raiden (Jack), 476
N1K Shiden (George), 415

D4Y Suisei (Judy), 2038
D3A Aichi (Val), 1495
B6N Tenzan (Jill), 1268
B5N (Kate), 1149
B7A Ryusei (Grace), 114

G4M (Betty), 2446
Ki-21 (Sally), 2064
P1Y Ginga (Frances), 1098
G3M (Nell), 1048
Ki-67 Hiryu (Peggy), 767

---- RUSSIA ----

From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_the_Soviet_Union_and_the_CIS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Russia%2C_World_War_II
http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/363/9941_roosevelt.html

Yak-9, 16769
La-5, 9920
I-16, 9004
Yak-1, 8720
Yak-7, 6339
LaGG-3, 6258
La-7, 5753
P-39, 5007 (from US)
Yak-3, 4848
MiG-3, 3120
Hurricane, 2952 (from UK)
P-63, 2421 (from US)
Spitfire, 1331 (from UK)

Il-2, 29937

Pe-2, 11427
SB-2, 6656
Il-4, 5256
A-20, 2700 (from US)
Tu-2, 2527
DB-3, 1528

---- UK ----

From Wikipedia entries starting from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_RAF and using http://www.rafweb.org/aircraftA-D.htm to judge which are WWII aircraft.

Spitfire, 20351
Hurricane, 14000
Typhoon, 3330
Seafire, 2334
Tempest, 1702
Defiant, 1064

Mosquito, 7781
Beaufighter, 5928
Beaufort, 2080

Wellington, 11461
Lancaster, 7377
Halifax, 6176
Blenheim, 4422
Stirling, 2383
Whitley, 1737
Hampden, 1430

Martin Baltimore, 1575 (from US)
Douglas Boston
Brewster Buffalo
B-17
Douglas Havoc
Curtiss Kittyhawk
B-24
Martin Marauder
Martin Maryland
B-25
Curtis Mohawk
P-51
P-47
Vultee Vengence
Lockheed Ventura

---- Germany ----

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_production_during_WW2, but using individual entries for aircraft production.

Bf 109, 35000
FW 190, 20010
Bf 110, 15000
Me 262, 1430

Ju 88, 15000
He 111, 7300
Do 217, 1366
He 177, 1146

Ju 87, 6000

Wmaker · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:25:04 PM »

Thanks for the link Furball, hadn't look at that list in ages!

The only aircraft that really was a suprise on "the ten thousand list" was Avro Anson. You learn something new every day.

Ball · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:27:59 PM »

Nice one, thanks...

Missing in red.

Quote

Originally posted by Brooke

---- US ----

For the US, here are the production fighters, with numbers produced listed (from America's Hundred Thousand):

P-47, 15683
P-51, 15486
P-40, 13143
F6F, 12275
F4U, 11514
P-38, 10037
P-39, 9529
F4F/FM, 7905

For bombers (from https://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/AAFaircraft.htm and others):

B-24, 18190
B-17, 12692
B-25, 9186
A-20, 7385
B-26, 5157

TBM, 9837
SB2C, 7140
SBD, 5936

---- JAPAN ----

IJN aircraft from http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/ijnaf.htm and from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Japan%2C_World_War_II

A6M Zero, 10449
Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscar), 5919
Ki-84 Hayate (Frank), 3449
Ki-61 Hien (Tony), 3159
Ki-45 Toryu (Nick), 1701
Ki-44 Shoki (Tojo), 1225
A5M (Claude), 1094
J2M Raiden (Jack), 476
N1K Shiden (George), 415

D4Y Suisei (Judy), 2038
D3A Aichi (Val), 1495
B6N Tenzan (Jill), 1268
B5N (Kate), 1149
B7A Ryusei (Grace), 114

G4M (Betty), 2446
Ki-21 (Sally), 2064
P1Y Ginga (Frances), 1098
G3M (Nell), 1048
Ki-67 Hiryu (Peggy), 767

---- RUSSIA ----

From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_the_Soviet_Union_and_the_CIS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_Russia%2C_World_War_II
http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/363/9941_roosevelt.html

Yak-9, 16769
La-5, 9920
I-16, 9004
Yak-1, 8720
Yak-7, 6339
LaGG-3, 6258
La-7, 5753
P-39, 5007 (from US)
Yak-3, 4848
MiG-3, 3120
Hurricane, 2952 (from UK)
P-63, 2421 (from US)
Spitfire, 1331 (from UK)

Il-2, 29937

Pe-2, 11427
SB-2, 6656
Il-4, 5256
A-20, 2700 (from US)
Tu-2, 2527
DB-3, 1528

---- UK ----

From Wikipedia entries starting from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_RAF and using http://www.rafweb.org/aircraftA-D.htm to judge which are WWII aircraft.

Spitfire, 20351
Hurricane, 14000
Typhoon, 3330
Seafire, 2334
Tempest, 1702
Defiant, 1064

Mosquito, 7781
Beaufighter, 5928
Beaufort, 2080

Wellington, 11461
Lancaster, 7377
Halifax, 6176
Blenheim, 4422
Stirling, 2383
Whitley, 1737
Hampden, 1430

Martin Baltimore, 1575 (from US)

---- Germany ----

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_production_during_WW2, but using individual entries for aircraft production.

Bf 109, 35000
FW 190, 20010
Bf 110, 15000
Me 262, 1430

Ju 88, 15000
He 111, 7300
Do 217, 1366
He 177, 1146

Ju 87, 6000

Karnak · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:43:54 PM »

That list has some notable errors and ommisions.

For example it lists ther N1K as 415, but that is the N1K2-J's production total. The N1K1 and N1K1-J's numbers would boost that past 1000.

Ball · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:54:57 PM »

Please could you quote it and amend anything which you see wrong?

Serenity · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:57:23 PM »

Helldiver would be a Hangar Queen. Barely anyone flies the Dauntless, why get an even OLDER, MORE useless plane? Other than snapshots and scenarios, I just dont see the point of this plane unless someone is VERY fond of them...

Ball · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:59:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Serenity
Helldiver would be a Hangar Queen. Barely anyone flies the Dauntless, why get an even OLDER, MORE useless plane? Other than snapshots and scenarios, I just dont see the point of this plane unless someone is VERY fond of them...

It is just there to show what we are missing in terms of importance. I didnt intend for it to be a wishlist for every aircraft we are missing.

Serenity · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2007, 03:00:09 PM »

Ah, okay.

Ball · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2007, 03:01:14 PM »

lotta red there for the Ruskies and Japanese...

Italy is not on the list either.

Serenity · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2007, 03:17:56 PM »

Im just a bit doubtful of any data taken from Wikipedia, but it looks like you have several other sources, correct?

Ball · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2007, 03:19:37 PM »

I dont expect completely accurate numbers. I didnt compile the list.

I just thought it would be a good idea to relate approximate production figures with omission from aces high - to get an idea of what we should be requesting next

Bronk · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2007, 03:21:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Ball
lotta red there for the Ruskies and Japanese...

Italy is not on the list either.

What no FAF!!!!!!????
Where is my glove so I may place it across your cheek!!!!

Bronk

Ball · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2007, 03:24:20 PM »

place lovingly?

Bronk · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2007, 03:27:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Ball
place lovingly?

Depends, you like it rough or not?

Bronk