Author Topic: LOCK UPS LOCK UPS LOCK UPS! (Read 1456 times)

Goner · « **Reply #15 on:** October 31, 2001, 03:09:00 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by vmfRazor:
had a squeak of a time getting the VIA AC 97 OB audio working

which audio drivers did you use ??
i got the drivers from
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

installed without a hitch and still working.

Goner

capera · « **Reply #16 on:** October 31, 2001, 04:05:00 AM »

Quote from the HiTech Website FAQ....

"I have a GeForce video card and my computer locks up after playing AH for a short time OR My computer intermittently locks up when playing AH and I have a motherboard using an AMD or VIA chipset.

Reply:

If you have an Athlon processor this problem is due to a flaw in AMD's 750 "Irongate" North Bridge chipset. There is currently no fix available, but there is a workaround. First of all, download the newest AGP and IRQ routing drivers from your motherboard supplier. Next, make sure you select AGP 1x as your AGP bus speed.
This problem also occurs in systems using VIA Apollo MVP3 chipsets. The solution in this case is to download the newest AGP driver and IRQ routing drivers from www.viatech.com. In addition, you should disable any settings in your bios referring to AGP "Turbo Mode" or VGA Pallet Snooping. Known MB's with this issue include the ASUS K7 and a number of EPOX MBs.

If the above steps do not correct your problem, try searching for a newer bios version for your motherboard."

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Hope this helps.

[ 10-31-2001: Message edited by: capera ]

BigMax · « **Reply #17 on:** November 01, 2001, 12:27:00 PM »

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Originally posted by air_reaper:
Not sure if your problem is the same mine was or not.

I pulled out my SB live. Installed a new SB 5.1 digital and the problem went away. I came across a SB Audigy and installed it without a problem too.

Installed the SB live I had and WHAM problem was back. Uninstalled it and smiled as it hit the bottom of the trash can.

I came to the conclusion that in my case the SB live was bad. Hope this helps.

I am having similar but slightly different problems.... {Posted previously in "Technical Support}. Anyway, I can [ALT TAB] out, but AH crashes on reentry... Looks like I need to try the "pull the NEW SBLive" card - reinstall old one. Wait and see... Might we have discovered a serious issue with Creative & HiTech compatabilities?

-->I wonder<--

Max <S> Out!

blackfalcon4 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 02, 2001, 07:06:00 AM »

YOYO

I have a sys setup like you mention w/no probs at all. Biggest thing is on the sb live dont install dos drivers and make sure sb16 emulation is on irq 5, you can do that thru your bios by reserving it.

KG-7-Raid w/1.4@1.6
512mb PC2400
Herc Proph II 64mb (unclocked)
Det 21.88 DX8.1
SB Live Gamer (accelleration full)
2-IBM 60GXP 40gb in Raid0
3Com 900C 10mb nic
19" Sony @ 1024x768
Win98SE
AH FPS= 80-100+
Absolutely no probs at all, even the old crashbug didnt get me

[ 11-02-2001: Message edited by: blackfalcon4 ]

bloom25 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 02, 2001, 01:25:00 PM »

In response to the FAQ quote above: I wrote that and HTC added it to their FAQ about a year and a half ago. The 750 chipset is no longer in use, and hasn't been since the Tbird Athlons. The last board to use them usually had a k7m in their model number.

Updating the via drivers may help, but I really think there is an IRQ or soundblaster driver issue causing the problem. Creative really has a fairly poor record with their drivers and sharing interupts with anything else.

vmfRazor · « **Reply #20 on:** November 02, 2001, 04:35:00 PM »

I agree considering that the "Latest Drivers" for the PCI 512 I got are dated Nov. 1999 I beleive. That is atrocious IMO. The computer world is leaps and bounds ahead of what it was in 99.

Razor

pugpug · « **Reply #21 on:** November 04, 2001, 06:55:00 AM »

I am having lock up problems too. I see that my SB16 in in IRQ 7. Could anyone tell me how to put in IRQ 5? Thanks. tprest@ev1.net

blackfalcon4 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 04, 2001, 07:27:00 AM »

YO pug

You have to do this in your bios.
When you bootup press the key to get in your bios(usually delete key or f1), go to pci/pnp configuration, then resources controlled by- change this to manual, then IRQ resources and reserve IRQ5 for isa or legacy device...... Thats it

If this doesnt help tell us what kinda machine you have and any other pertenant info.

Hope it helps

SKurj · « **Reply #23 on:** November 04, 2001, 10:01:00 AM »

W98 can handle 512mb of ram, just any higher you need to do an INI fix.

I'd recommend you leave the case open and see what happens..

SKurj

vmfRazor · « **Reply #24 on:** November 04, 2001, 04:01:00 PM »

Err Falcon,

I have done what you said I set the IRQ5 to Legacy Device when I reinstall the Soundcard I still have the TNT2 card on IRQ5 and can't even see the SB16 emulation anywhere on the IRQ list but in Properties for the SB16 it says IRQ7?? Do I need to remove the TNT2 Card to get it to change??

Razor

blackfalcon4 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 05, 2001, 06:03:00 PM »

YOYO
You should use the gf2 in ur agp slot, skip a slot put in your sb card , skip 2 slots and put in your modem or nic. Assign IRQ 5 to legacy or reserved. Make sure recourses are controlled by manual not auto. This should give you seperate IRQ's for devices and irq5 should be for sb16 emulation under device manager/computer/properties.

Also in your bios enable agp4x and fast writes enabled.
And use 21.85 nvidia drvrs and dx8.1 You can get them here if you need them.

Give this a try,, Hope it helps
web page

[ 11-05-2001: Message edited by: blackfalcon4 ]

WpnX · « **Reply #26 on:** November 20, 2001, 05:34:00 PM »

To BlackFalcon4,
Thanks bud, I reset my SB16 from IRQ7 to IRQ5 and my lockups went away. I've had no lockups for 2 days now - before I was having them every time I played. I had tried everything, or so I thought.
Thanks again,
Wpns

AthlonXP 1700+
Soyo Dragon Plus Mobo
512mb Crucial 2100 Ram
GeForce2 GTS w/64mb DDR Det 21.83
SBLive Value
WinME
DX8.1
350Watt Enermax Whisper PSU

fuzeman · « **Reply #27 on:** November 24, 2001, 03:32:00 AM »

I also have a bad lockup problem. You've given me lots to look at in the previous posts mainly with IRQs, I've got:

ACPI IRQ holder for pci irq steering
Creative SB Live! series
VIA Tech 3083 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller [listed twice]

all under IRQ 5, YIKES!!!
Also, someone told me to disable SB16 emulation, I guess they were off base.

My freezes never happen offline, and i practiced alot there, but happen many times a day online, with no pattern to them. My frame rate takes a nose dive and the computer locks up requiring a hard reset/scan routine.

System specs:CPU:
   Duron 750 @ 850 on Abit KT7A mobo
   Recently purchases whole system from KickAss Gear 2/14/2001
   Only real things I have done to it, add gamecard and whole CH setup. Note- I recently removed the Gamecard and go into soundcard gameport now.
RAM:
   128Mb
WIN 95/98/ME:
   Win98se   4.10.2222 A
VIDEO CARD:
   NVIDIA GeForce2 MX
VIDEO DRIVER VERSION:
   4.12.01.0631
DESKTOP RESOLUTION:
   800x600x16
ACES HIGH RESOLUTION:
    800x600
SOUND CARD:
   Creative SB Live! series
SOUND DRIVER VERSION:
   4.12.01.0905
MODEM:   U.S. Robotics Gaming Modem
   v4.10.2222

I'll keep you posted and will keep an eye out for more tidbits of help,
fuzeman

mrsid2 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 24, 2001, 05:14:00 AM »

If you have an athlon 1.4gig in your system, I'd strongly reckommend getting a faster display card.

When you buy a geforce3 ti200 f.e. you'll forget all the nonsense about different detonators etc. because your system will simply run AH - FAST.

If your lockups only happen online I would suggest the problem lies on the NIC. You aren't using one of those horrid usb nics are you???

Because if your networking and live! share the irq - boy you're in trouble. Generally speaking the live! is a pain in the bellybutton for VIA chipset owners - I've learned that the hard way. I switched to onboard ac97 sound for now and I prefer lower sound quality instead of lockups. The soundcard is not the weakest link anyway if you think the typical multimedia sound system. If you have desktop speakers, they will distort your sound by hundred times more than your soundcard ever will.

blackfalcon4 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 24, 2001, 08:53:00 AM »

Yo Fuze

Built multiple systems using KT7A board(nice board)
Follow what i said in previous posts for where and what to do on placing cards and assigning irq's.
Now go here web page and get a tricked bios update.
It'll alow you to shut off acpi and free up an irq, plus you can get a different epa logo(some really cool ones)
Also use latest via 4in1's and nvidia drivers. And when you install agp driver from the 4in1's use turbo mode.
Hope it helps

[ 11-24-2001: Message edited by: blackfalcon4 ]