Author Topic: G.55 goes down In the 1st round (Read 1235 times)

Husky01 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 30, 2007, 02:08:06 PM »

Whats gonna be funny is when everyone that wants the B25 dosn't get there giant cannon on the front so they will cry a about it.

Wilbus · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2007, 02:19:41 PM »

I just hope it is NOT the B25. The plane that is least needed IMO.

It is sad to see the G55 go so soon (I didn't vote for it though, sticking with my 410 although I know that won't make it either).

My guess is it will come down to the B25, A26 and the P39 (the He111 won't stand a chance).

The B25 is probarly gonna be the winner

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 30, 2007, 02:21:50 PM »

This whole thing's been sad, really.

It would have been better if HTC had just suprised us with a new plane, instead of putting it to vote.

If you look at some of the bashing/flaming that's been going on in here, you'd think that we were splitting the Arena's again.

Viking · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2007, 02:27:03 PM »

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Originally posted by humble
… and the 410 will have some appeal for about a week before everyone goes back to the 110G2 or Mosquito.

I doubt that since the Me 410 has more guns and carry more bombs … and is faster than both the 110G and Mossie FB.VI.

Husky01 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2007, 02:31:10 PM »

can the 410 fight?

Viking · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2007, 02:33:15 PM »

I sincerely hope so.

Wilbus · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2007, 03:21:09 PM »

The 110 can fight extremely well. The 410 should be able to do the same if not better. It would probarly turn worse though but I am not sure.

Due to the nature of the fights in AH what would work in real life may not work for the AH MA fights.

It would still be a great plane though and I'd definatly fly it.

Gianlupo · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2007, 03:24:31 PM »

If modelled correctly, it shouldn't stand a chance against a fighter. From what I know, it wasn't maneuverable... it'd be a good weapon platform against bombers and a good jabo.

I voted for Yak 3 this round, but I'm really indecisive between it and the Me 410. Yak 3 has a really low range, it should be around 15 minutes with 100%... on the other hand, the Hornisse won't be good for fighting, but it should be really fun for porking and attacking bombers... oh, well, neither of them will win, I know.

If I were to vote for a bomber, it would be the He111, it's a too big gap in the planeset... we have enough medium american bombers.

Husky01 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2007, 03:32:54 PM »

Viking · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2007, 03:42:45 PM »

"wasn't maneuverable" is a very subjective statement. One thing to remember about all WWII land based aircraft is that they all had similar landing speeds, and therefore had similar wing loading. Similar being the difference between a Spitfire and a Fw 190 or so. Since the Me 410 could carry a heavy load of ordinance and guns it stands to reason that a light configuration, say only two cannon and no bombs would have a rather low wing loading.

History tells us that the 110 "wasn't maneuverable " either, but we know that in the MA with a light fuel load and internal guns only the 110 can turn with most planes. I once out-turned and shot down a P-38 in a Ju88 with no bombs and only 25% fuel. That was fun.

Hajo · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2007, 03:55:34 PM »

Geez another whine thread....just what this BBS needed.

Wilbus · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:00:33 PM »

HHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAJJJJJJJJJJ JJJOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

humble · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:06:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
I doubt that since the Me 410 has more guns and carry more bombs … and is faster than both the 110G and Mossie FB.VI.

The basic loadout is just 2x20mm & 2 x 12.7. So it doesnt have more guns and more bombs. The mossie and 110G2 both seem to have a better combination of base guns and ord's (from what I can read). The 110 was lighter by a significant margin and had much better wing loading. The 410 only carries 2200 lbs of bombs so I dont see the difference (doesnt the 110 carry 2 x 500k?). Its not all that much faster (20mph or so??).

So to me you get a plane thats a bit faster but turns worse....basically its a target. I'd bet its closer to an A-20 then a 110 turnfight wise without the firepower the 110 has.

humble · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:13:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
The 110 can fight extremely well. The 410 should be able to do the same if not better. It would probarly turn worse though but I am not sure.

Due to the nature of the fights in AH what would work in real life may not work for the AH MA fights.

It would still be a great plane though and I'd definatly fly it.

The plane is almost 24,000 lbs...even taking of 2200 for ords its 21,500+...

so wingloading is roughly 55 lbs/sqf....the A-20 by comparision was just under 40 lbs/sqf {about same as Mosquito}. The 410 is a target drone. If they model it right it'll be a total flop in the MA......

Viking · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:02:54 PM »

I see Humble is spreading his usual nonsense in other threads than those specifically for the Me 410.

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Originally posted by Viking
Your information is of the … usual quality (a word I find difficult to use in this context). The Me 410 had an empty weight of 13,000 lbs (6100 kg) and a max take-off weight of 23,480 lbs. In comparison the P-38L had an empty weight of 12,780 lbs and a max. take-off weight of 21,600 lbs.

The Me 410 had a wing area of 390 sq. feet.

The P-38L had a wing area of 327.5 sq. feet.

The Me 410 has more power and lower wing loading than the P-38L.

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