Author Topic: If you were a betting man/woman where would your $ be? (Read 1886 times)

LYNX · « **Reply #15 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:08:18 PM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr
In the forums, people been begging for P-39. Do the folks in the game, who are not in the forums, even know what a P-39 is?

I will note that the G.55 had a VERY strong following and rated second in the informal poll. I would also note that all the Low ENY LW pilots with their LaLas, Nikis, Pony-D's, and Splixteens would have welcomed the G.55 with 3 X 20mm X 200-250 rpg and its performance numbers, plus MW availability.

G.55 cut in first round. Heck, 3 of 4 cut were fighters, which surprises me to some degree.

I know they are not publishing the voting totals to avoid influencing the vote. But I'd love to know whether or not the He-111 and B-25 held the top two spots.

I'm willing to bet that in the online vote, there are voters for the B-25 who think it will be a CV-launched plane.

Jerry needs another bomber + scenario needs another jerry bomber so I voted 111 but with the majority in here being American I am convinced Yeagers favourite will win.....p39.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2007, 06:00:54 PM »

Save the I told ya sos for after its all over.

the question was if I was a betting man where would I place my bet.

Thats what I did.

Personally I'd like to see another plane win it.
I just dont see it happening

Brooke · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2007, 01:31:02 AM »

I'll be surprised if the P-39 does not win by a wide margin. It's a fighter, and it is likely the most-recognizable fighter to the overall voting public. It has supporters among the historical aficionados as well.

Iron_Cross · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2007, 08:05:24 AM »

Well the first round vote surprised me. I thought for shure the 111 would have been out the first round, and the 410 as well. I would have guessed the G-55, and the "mystery" Japanese fighter would have made it into round 2.

Before, I would have placed my money on the P-39. Two reasons; First it is a fighter, and second it is American. The large American voting block would have seen it to the end. Now with the preponderance of bombers in round two's vote, I don't know. I would have guesed the bombers would have been gone the first couple of rounds.

Looks like I'm going to swich my money to the A-26?

tedrbr · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2007, 12:25:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Brooke
I'll be surprised if the P-39 does not win by a wide margin. It's a fighter, and it is likely the most-recognizable fighter to the overall voting public. It has supporters among the historical aficionados as well.

If the vote was being held in these forums, I'd bet you'd be right. The vote is held in the game interface, so, as I've stated (and been criticized for), the level of knowledge among the voting population is lower, and based more on what they know and are familar with, not the histories or capabilities of the planes on the list.

Hence the G.55 cut. Hence Japanese fighter cut in favor of some early war bombers.

Expect the He-111 and B-25 to make the Final Four. Battle of Britain and Doolittle Raid.

Kazaa · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2007, 12:15:40 PM »

Yak3 , so we can all chase down those pesky La7s !

The hunter becomes the hunted

Masherbrum · « **Reply #21 on:** April 01, 2007, 12:21:14 PM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr
Unfortunately, in popular vote, after seeing first cuts....

B-25

The next LW hangar queen.

Also, arguments will ensue as to which version of the B-25 should be sitting in that hangar.

What are the LWA Hanger Queens? Just curious.

tedrbr · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2007, 12:30:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Kazaa
Yak3 , so we can all chase down those pesky La7s !

The hunter becomes the hunted

Except that the La-7's are about 25mph faster than the Yak-3's. In fact, Yak 9-U's are faster than Yak-3's. La-7 has WEP too, not sure about Yak-3's. The Yak-3's claim to fame was it was one of the best air superiority fighters of WWII. It was a dog-fighter, not an interceptor like the La-7 or Yak 9U, not a attack plane. It commanded the low to medium airspace over the front lines.

If I understand it right, the Yak-3 in game would be more maneuverable than the Yak 9U, a bit slower, and have less flight time due to less on-board fuel (to keep it light and nimble. In game, it would be an excellent, but short ranged, furballer.

I like Yaks, would not mind getting the Yak-3, but not my favorite from the list.

Tilt · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2007, 01:23:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Kazaa
Yak3 , so we can all chase down those pesky La7s !

The hunter becomes the hunted

tedrbr is basically correct......... however the Yak3 will out accelerate the La7 (at lower and medium speeds) and out roll it as well as turning with it in the horizontal and better than it shoud any vertical component be involved.

It has superb climb but lousey inertial zoom.

It would have the best cockpit vision of any fighter in the game. There is no armoured screen to frame and hamper the lead shot view.

Wilbus · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2007, 04:18:25 PM »

My bet would unfortunatly be the B25, I really REALLY hope I am wrong though!

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #25 on:** April 01, 2007, 06:22:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Iron_Cross
Well the first round vote surprised me. I thought for shure the 111 would have been out the first round, and the 410 as well. I would have guessed the G-55, and the "mystery" Japanese fighter would have made it into round 2.

Before, I would have placed my money on the P-39. Two reasons; First it is a fighter, and second it is American. The large American voting block would have seen it to the end. Now with the preponderance of bombers in round two's vote, I don't know. I would have guesed the bombers would have been gone the first couple of rounds.

Looks like I'm going to swich my money to the A-26?

410 making it to the next round doesnt surprise me. All one has to do it take a pook at the pic of that big gun sticking out of it to understand why LOL.

Jap planes not making it to round 2 is a bit of a surprise to me though.

blkmgc · « **Reply #26 on:** April 01, 2007, 07:23:38 PM »

the 25's probably going to win. Dont think it'll be a hanger queen though, I can speak for one squad that will split some time in it.

CAV · « **Reply #27 on:** April 01, 2007, 07:42:18 PM »

Unfortunately, in popular vote, after seeing first cuts....

B-25

The next LW hangar queen.

I would never base my vote on what a plane will do in the MA's. The B-25 will see lots of flying time in the events. That is why A/C like the B-25 or the He-111 will be getting my vote.

CAVALRY

hubsonfire · « **Reply #28 on:** April 01, 2007, 08:02:38 PM »

If I can cover 2 bets, I'll go B-25 or P-39, since they could, presumably, see use in both the SEA and MAs. Really not sure which I would rather wager on. I just hope we eventually get the others from the initial list, with the obvious exception of the G.55.

715 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 01, 2007, 08:49:44 PM »

I don't think there could be such a thing as a bomber hanger queen (within reason). Performance isn't as critical with bombers, and besides most have about the same speed (the A-26 would be an exception). The Lanc has the clear advantage when it comes to bomb load, but you still see all kinds of bombers in the MA all the time. In fact, if you go via K+D as an approximation of usage rates (not as accurate with bombers as with fighters) the B24 actually is higher than the Lanc, and the difference between the least popular (Ju88, neglecting the A20) and the most (B24) is only about a factor of two. So I don't think the B25 would be any different and it wouldn't be a hanger queen.

Now with fighters, performance is critical, and there are lots of hanger queen fighters (Hurri I has about 1/23 the usage of the N1K2). The P39 might turn out to be a bit of a hanger queen in LW. However, it is hard to come up with WWII fighters that saw significant service and wouldn't be hanger queens for the simple fact that AH has such a large fraction of viable candidates already in the game. I count 74 aircraft in AH already- coming up with the 75th, and limiting yourself to only those that would get extensive MA usage, is near impossible.