Author Topic: More Iran.... (Read 1221 times)

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #15 on:** April 01, 2007, 07:22:03 AM »

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From what i have heard the whole thing seems planned. They moved in once the boarding party had finished inspecting, and the chopper was on its way back to HMS Cornwall.

Couple of Sea Skua missiles would have soon put an end to the Iranian ambush

Hmmm, and the price of a barrel of oil moves from 57 to 67. The fear factor

. So if this thing is planned, (which we all know it couldnt polssibly be), we are going to come to the brink of war with iran, complkete with nuke threats and whatnot, and the price of a barrell of oil will fly to 90. Gas will be 4.00 per gallon, everybody will be rolling in the cash, and just when it is pumped for every penny, calmer heads will prevail and the hostages will be released. Now, how can we profit from this. (if ya cant beat em, join em). Alternative energy stocks, coal stocks, electrical infrastructure and power grid stocks, Exxonmobile, hmmm.

john9001 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2007, 08:07:03 AM »

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WhiteHawk · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2007, 08:14:42 AM »

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Oh and pushing $6,000.00 with Gilead Sciences (Rumsfelds baby), although I was playing that for the bird flu thing. The aids drugs is what is driving that stock. These guys really know how to pick stocks:lol . Its as if they....uhhh...well, you know------>

Ripsnort · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2007, 08:43:13 AM »

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Originally posted by john9001
there will be no iran war, there will be no iraq war, general plosie is cutting off all war funding and bringing the troops home, there will be peace in our time.

Allah willing.

Dago · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2007, 09:30:46 AM »

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Perfect, and there has never been anything more accurate stated or displayed anywhere.

Hornet33 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2007, 11:51:48 AM »

You know what would be interesting to see? I'd like to see the Iranian reaction if Briton publicly apologized to Iran and politely asked for those sailors and marines to be released.

I mean that's what that idiot in Terran is asking for right? An apology. So give it to him and then see what he does. If he releases those guys then at least they are home in one piece and everyone can go on continuing the mission. If they are not released then Iran looks bad to the rest of the world for not doing the right thing and then public opinion will swing in our favor.

Looking at the big picture an apology is nothing, but it does put pressure on Iran to release them since that is all they are asking for. Sometimes the easiest way to defeat someone is to give them a little something they want and put them on the spot. They either have to give something back so they still look good or they try to get something else and end up looking worse than they did to begin with.

Think about it. If someone wrote an apology and qouted scripture from the Koran about forgiving and forgetting, and how Allah is a just and forgiving God and that people are only human and make honest mistakes and this was just such a case so on and so forth. A statement like that puts the moral pressure on them to do the right thing and release them or else the enitre world will know once and for all that they cannot be trusted to act in good faith in accordance with their religion as they claim. The moderate muslims states would see them for what they really are as well and Iran could quickly find itself in a world of crap if they didn't release them.

Kinda like a little backward english on a cue ball. You give them what they want but spin it in your favor. Too bad the politicians are too dumb to see it.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #21 on:** April 01, 2007, 12:31:04 PM »

Well, lets think this thing out here. IF the ships were in Iraqi waters, then we are asked to believe that the Iranians crossed the lines to kidnap the Brits. That would mean that, a couple of Iranian patrol boats out smarted the defenses of the HMS cornwalls radar, sonar, air support for the boarding party. I am supposing that the Cornwall didnt send 3 rubber dingys out of sonar and radar range, even if the air support was asleep at the wheel. So, IF they were in Iraqi waters then the Brits need to surrender immediatly to Iran and take their idiot arses back to England. IF they were in Iranian waters, then they need to apologize to Iran for the accident. I see no other alternative.

Gunthr · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2007, 12:42:05 PM »

a few days before the capture of the Brits, the Ayatollah said something significant, to the effect of, the west has interfered illegally in the rights of Iran to pursue nuclear power, now we may feel free to act illegally.

i feel for those Royal Marines and sailors because i think they are going to be in Iran for a long time, whether Britain apologizes or not. they are POWs in the war on terror (is it pc to say war on terror?)

so far, western politicians have no way, and no will, to deal with the Islamist mind. Iran will encourage Blair to make a fool of himself by apologising, but that won't get the hostages back. in fact, i think an apology alone would probably seal their fate.

dmf · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2007, 01:05:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
a few days before the capture of the Brits, the Ayatollah said something significant, to the effect of, the west has interfered illegally in the rights of Iran to pursue nuclear power, now we may feel free to act illegally.

i feel for those Royal Marines and sailors because i think they are going to be in Iran for a long time, whether Britain apologizes or not. they are POWs in the war on terror (is it pc to say war on terror?)

so far, western politicians have no way, and no will, to deal with the Islamist mind. Iran will encourage Blair to make a fool of himself by apologising, but that won't get the hostages back. in fact, i think an apology alone would probably seal their fate.

I think its still pc to say war on terror, since thats where they all come from nowadays
Now if I was in charge then I'd have to apologize to Iran after they took my people hostage, prisoner, what ever you want to call it. I'd have to apologize for the mushroom clouds over Iran. Iraq, and whoever wants to be next on the list.

Dowding · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2007, 01:47:20 PM »

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is it pc to say war on terror?

No, just grammatically incorrect.

SirLoin · « **Reply #25 on:** April 01, 2007, 02:18:33 PM »

If i was Blair i would publicly appologize for tresspasing into Iranian waters..Then after the hostages are released...Launch a six-pack of cruise missles and take out a half-dozen electrical power plants...

Then appologize for the cruise missles "Trespassing" in Iranian territory.

Yknurd · « **Reply #26 on:** April 01, 2007, 02:38:53 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
there will be no iran war, there will be no iraq war, general plosie is cutting off all war funding and bringing the troops home, there will be peace in our time.

Allah willing.

No. The Dems will bring the war home. The I will sue Pelosi and all her goose-stepping Nazi brothers.

Hap · « **Reply #27 on:** April 01, 2007, 02:40:59 PM »

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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
a couple of Iranian patrol boats out smarted the defenses of the HMS cornwalls radar, sonar, air support for the boarding party. I am supposing that the Cornwall didnt send 3 rubber dingys out of sonar and radar range, even if the air support was asleep at the wheel. So, IF they were in Iraqi waters then the Brits need to surrender immediatly to Iran and take their idiot arses back to England. IF they were in Iranian waters, then they need to apologize to Iran for the accident. I see no other alternative.

It's worth another run at getting folks' attention.

Gunthr · « **Reply #28 on:** April 01, 2007, 05:17:37 PM »

Dowding, have you shifted your stance at all from 2 years ago? Do you have a different view?

Joachim · « **Reply #29 on:** April 01, 2007, 05:20:27 PM »

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Originally posted by SirLoin
If i was Blair i would publicly appologize for tresspasing into Iranian waters..Then after the hostages are released...Launch a six-pack of cruise missles and take out a half-dozen electrical power plants...

Then appologize for the cruise missles "Trespassing" in Iranian territory.

Brilliant.