Author Topic: Bad things can happen when you get drunk  (Read 1744 times)

Offline GtoRA2

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8339
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2007, 03:44:28 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Seagoon
Hi GTO,

There is nothing even mildly right about what happened in this video from beginning to end.

1) The kids look either underage or just barely legal.
2) Getting so drunk or stoned you pass out is wrong.
3) Hanging out with people who respond to your passing out from excessive alcohol consumption by wondering how they can best take advantage of you for their own enjoyment is also wrong.
4) Shaving someone's head and covering them in Magic Marker symbols because they have passed out and can't do anything to stop you is also wrong (yes, even if its a guy)
5) Filming the event and then posting it on Youtube is also wrong.

What part of this seems right?

This is the kind of fun that often ends up with someone dead from alcohol poisoning. As adults, we are supposed to be trying to steer our kids away from stupid activities that can get them injured, molested, or killed.



Seagoon
 Where did I say I thought any of it was "right"? I am not defending the punk kid who did it. I am simply pointing out it was her choice to do these things, to be there and to drink, she made her bed, she is responsible for it.

Again, bringing in law enforcement would just be a waste of time an money. People need to learn things about life on their own. I hope she learned a lesson, maybe the boy who did it to her learned his when her boyfriend kicked his ass. Who knows, its just a video of kids doing what they do.


Quote
This is the kind of fun that often ends up with someone dead from alcohol poisoning. As adults, we are supposed to be trying to steer our kids away from stupid activities that can get them injured, molested, or killed.


I fully agree. Everything I see in that video is partly the parents fault for not raising their children right, the girl just as much as the boy.

Its not law enforcement or the governments job to do that though.  Nor should they be called in when the only harm done is a shaved head. Rape yes, death by booze yes, even busting up the party because of under age drinkers.  

But arresting and charging someone with a crime that COULD ruin their lives because a stupid girl with poor judgment got together with a bunch of other kids with poor judgment is stupid.

Offline Xargos

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4281
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2007, 03:45:04 PM »
And Columbine was just kids being kids too I guess.

And now that boy thinks it's fine to do whatever he wants because he was not punished for it.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2007, 03:47:58 PM by Xargos »
Jeffery R."Xargos" Ward

"At least I have chicken." 
Member DFC

Offline Masherbrum

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22416
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2007, 03:45:09 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Flatbar
What I saw was a helpless girl getting assulted, not funny at all. Infact, it's criminal if she didn't agree to it.


Agree
FSO Squad 412th FNVG
http://worldfamousfridaynighters.com/
Co-Founder of DFC

Offline GtoRA2

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8339
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2007, 03:47:02 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Xargos
Have you ever tried to shave the head of an inmate by force?  Hair means allot to some people.  I can promise you that many men would kill you if you cut their hair.



I avoid jobs that have me rolling around on the ground with men.

If thats your cup of tea more power to you.

Offline Ball

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1827
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2007, 03:49:54 PM »
Thats just out of order.  Idiots.

Offline Vulcan

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9913
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2007, 03:50:12 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
If it was a dude who got his head shaved NONE of you would care.


hair has a completely different social meaning for chicks. A guy can shave his head and he looks ok. A chick does it and people think eithers shes a dyke, a freak, or on cancer treatment.

Offline GtoRA2

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8339
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2007, 03:50:18 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Xargos
And Columbine was just kids being kids too I guess.



You really are not all that bright if you make the leap from booze and hair clippers to guns and bombs.



You can rant all you want about men’s hair and how you risk your life cutting it, it will still be a point with no relevance, we are not talking about you or your job. We are talking about teens and young 20s kids partying a little hard and doing stupid ****.

Offline GtoRA2

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8339
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2007, 03:53:06 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Vulcan
hair has a completely different social meaning for chicks. A guy can shave his head and he looks ok. A chick does it and people think eithers shes a dyke, a freak, or on cancer treatment.





Again she can get a wig, what real damage was done? What damage would you say was done that requires arrests and charges by the local DA?

Offline lasersailor184

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8938
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2007, 03:55:24 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Seagoon
This is the kind of fun that often ends up with someone dead from alcohol poisoning. As adults, we are supposed to be trying to steer our kids away from stupid activities that can get them injured, molested, or killed.


Kids are kids.  If we don't **** up occasionally, and even don't **** up massively very rarely, we will have learned nothing.


You did the same.
Punishr - N.D.M. Back in the air.
8.) Lasersailor 73 "Will lead the impending revolution from his keyboard"

Offline Xargos

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4281
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2007, 04:03:34 PM »
A crime is a crime no matter how you try to justify it.
Jeffery R."Xargos" Ward

"At least I have chicken." 
Member DFC

Offline Maniac

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3817
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2007, 04:06:40 PM »
You know who to blame for this crime?

The internet, more specific, Youtube.

The idea probably entered those guys mind like this "Lets shave her head and film it and post it on the Intardnet"
Warbirds handle : nr-1 //// -nr-1- //// Maniac

Offline GtoRA2

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8339
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2007, 04:07:08 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Xargos
A crime is a crime no matter how you try to justify it.



LOL What crime would that be?

Offline Vudak

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4819
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2007, 04:08:54 PM »
I personally agree with GtoRA2 that there should not be lawyers/the law involved in a case like this (those kids definately need a good ol' bellybutton whooping, however).

BUT, I'd just to throw a few hypotheticals out there...

If the law WAS brought in, and the kids were convicted, just how do you figure they should be punished?

If the case went to Civil Court (she sued them), just how much should she be rewarded?


IMO, anything more than community service would be overboard.
Vudak
352nd Fighter Group

Offline Xargos

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4281
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2007, 04:10:20 PM »
Assault.  And I bet a judge would see it that way too.
Jeffery R."Xargos" Ward

"At least I have chicken." 
Member DFC

Offline straffo

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10029
Bad things can happen when you get drunk
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2007, 04:17:33 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Vudak
I personally agree with GtoRA2 that there should not be lawyers/the law involved in a case like this (those kids definately need a good ol' bellybutton whooping, however).

BUT, I'd just to throw a few hypotheticals out there...

If the law WAS brought in, and the kids were convicted, just how do you figure they should be punished?

If the case went to Civil Court (she sued them), just how much should she be rewarded?


IMO, anything more than community service would be overboard.


If it was my daughter and your son what will you prefer ?

A judge or my baseball bat in your face plus in your son face ?