Author Topic: Bad things can happen when you get drunk (Read 1742 times)

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #60 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:43:32 AM »

what a joke!

you people really need to stop taking appearances so seriously.

who gives a toss if some drunk girl walks round with a crew cut for a month?
to liken this to rape and assault?

insanity.

I would never take part in shaving a girls head, but seeing it on that video just made me laugh and think of party time back in the day.

the only slightly shocking thing is that they were too grapefruit arse to stick around once she woke up and record her reaction to finish the effect for us people to laugh at.

assault? yeah and i suppose the woman who sued macdonalds because her coffee burnt her was within fairplay also?
im late in here but man im amazed at the patheticaly humanitrian standpoint most of you took.
as was said on page one 'Its only hair'
are there really people on this planet so completely self absorbed by thier own appearance to care about a shaved head for a month?

kill herself cos she lost her job? LOL. if so better dead than alive, an existance that lame should be terminated.

ah well.

Xargos · « **Reply #61 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:07:47 AM »

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/FG28Dh01.html

http://www.vermillion.k12.sd.us/High/guidance/suicide.htm

lazs2 · « **Reply #62 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:21:14 AM »

It was bad but....

there is another way to look at it. The girl may have to confront the whole situation when she sobers up..

She may never drink or drug again to the point of being impaired... this may save the lives of an entire family that she would have smashed her car head on into while passed out drunk some time in the future.

She may decide that she will never hang out with the people at that party again... she may end up not hanging around with scum at all while she continues to mature.. she may go to school and get a decent job and husband.

It may have been a life changing experiance for the best..

Then again... she may just use it as an excuse to stay loaded till her hair grows back and she can think of a new excuse to stay loaded.

lazs

Gunthr · « **Reply #63 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:50:28 AM »

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If it was my daughter and your son what will you prefer ?

A judge or my baseball bat in your face plus in your son face ? - Straffo

it would be satisying, but your wife and child would have to visit you at a French penal colony

Edbert · « **Reply #64 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:58:50 AM »

I'm with GTO on this too.

It was a stupid stunt that went WAY over the line IMO. We've seen guys pass out at WB/AH cons and have things drawn on them too. This stunt did go farther than I am confortable with. But the girl here iexhibited unsound judgement for putting herself in such a bad position with other kids that she (obviously) could not trust to use sound judgement. Frankly, being in such a vulnerable position around such delinquents she's lucky worse things weren't done to her.

I am also amazed that folks here call hair cutting "assault" then respond that a "baseball bat to the face" would be an appropriate response.

Gunthr · « **Reply #65 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:18:34 AM »

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I am also amazed that folks here call hair cutting "assault" then respond that a "baseball bat to the face" would be an appropriate response. - Edbert

i'm not amazed at it Edbert. i understand it. its just that the theraputic dose of baseball bat to the face is too close to the lethal dose, and who needs the legal aggravation?

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #66 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:56:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Xargos
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/FG28Dh01.html

http://www.vermillion.k12.sd.us/High/guidance/suicide.htm

shocking. sad and shocking.

still, i have no sympathy for suicides.

taking another life is a grievous crime, taking your own life is almost always cowardice. There may be situations where bullying or serious abuse can lead to a suicide and that is a truly sad state of affairs. Pumped up little rich kids that dont get the right shoes for a party and fall into helpless suicidal spirals are better looked at with certain disdain. a girl with a shaved head who kills herself is not worth caring about.

Xargos · « **Reply #67 on:** April 04, 2007, 10:48:38 AM »

I had someone hang himself on my cell block and it made me realize how fragile the human mind can be. I sometimes blame myself for not checking up on him enough. I don't think you guys realize how the smallest things can ruin some peoples lives. It's a shame yes, but it's a fact.

P.S. Something that might not mean anything to you can mean everything to someone else.

P.P.S. I'm not going to reply to this thread any longer.

Seagoon · « **Reply #68 on:** April 04, 2007, 11:47:16 AM »

Hi Laser,

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Kids are kids. If we don't **** up occasionally, and even don't **** up massively very rarely, we will have learned nothing.

You did the same.

Forgive the late reply, I wasn't ignoring, just didn't spot your post.

I hope you'll also forgive me but I think that trial and error is the worst form of childrearing.

For instance, as they are growing up we teach our children not to grab the handle of the boiling pot on the hot stove, not to stick the fork in the electrical socket, not to run into the road after the ball, not to get into cars with strangers, etc. We don't, for instance, expect them to learn simply by putting the toddler into a room with a boiling pot and letting him figure it out without our interference. While third degree burns will undoubtedly teach the little tyke a "massive" lesson he'll never forget, but is that the best way to educate and admonish?

You are right to point out that I went the trial and error route myself, but its only by the grace of God that I'm alive and not in jail today. I can think of at least 2 incidents where my foolishness should have gotten me killed, and several where I could have been arrested, including one where had customs in the US or UK really been on the ball I'd probably have done time. I also really, really, wish today that I had the brain cells and short term memory that I killed, back. I ended up hurting myself and plenty of others by my "screw-ups" and regret heartily many of my decisions.

Personally I don't think that a boatload of regrets, a seared conscience, and maybe an STD or two is what your kids should be graduating or failing to graduate from college or high-school with. I'd rather my sons and daughters learned from Daddy's recounting how unpleasant sticking the fork in the lightsocket was and why we shouldn't do it than by giving them all forks and leaving them alone in the room.

I'd also like to give them a working moral compass that would lead them to see why making decisions like the ones in the video are ethically wrong even if they don't lead to physical or emotional harm every time.

DrDea · « **Reply #69 on:** April 04, 2007, 01:36:46 PM »

This to me doesnt look like a pratical joke.Its obviously 1 of 2 things...Staged for the hell of it of one VERY personal attack.Thats not a whim going on there.Way to marked up to just be for fun.Who knows if it is real but if it is,Im gonna go out on a limb here and say theres a real good chance she deserved it.That or did something realy bad to someone and this is a payback.

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #70 on:** April 04, 2007, 01:43:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Xargos
I had someone hang himself on my cell block and it made me realize how fragile the human mind can be. I sometimes blame myself for not checking up on him enough. I don't think you guys realize how the smallest things can ruin some peoples lives. It's a shame yes, but it's a fact.

P.S. Something that might not mean anything to you can mean everything to someone else.

P.P.S. I'm not going to reply to this thread any longer.

Xargos, for what it is worth, despite your disinterest in another post here....

i have spent the last 10 years living with the devastating affect acne had on my face and back. im not talking a 6 month rash of tiny pimples, im talking serious mutilation of whole areas of my skin that are scarred so bad the scars have scars. the scarring and distortion is minimal as a life problem, i never wanted to be a pretty boy, but 8 years of constantly having hideous red scars and lumps played a serious mental trauma on me and still does daily. Not to mention the many other ups and downs of life that everyone or most people will go through.

i have considered the futility of all existance entensively and even been near the edge of finding out what the next life would bring.

not everyone who has a harsh opinion is as totaly misguided as you might think, sir.

Your experience is first hand, and your trauma of unfair guilt is a common reaction in a caring heart. however, i never saw, spoke to nor had anything to do with that inmate, and i cannot be affected by it in any way but through seeing your post here.

If my close friend killed themself i would be destroyed, but i would still consider suicide in general in the same light as i do now.

as regards your PS: that something that means so much to someone is nothing to do with me. in the same way anything in my life has nothing to do with them. if i was to be affected by every sadness the world offers i would kill myself almost instantly.

with all respect intended.

moot · « **Reply #71 on:** April 04, 2007, 04:38:35 PM »

See AquaShrimp, DrDea has yet another possibility.. This video doesn't show enough evidence for any real conclusions, only theoretical discourse..

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #72 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:44:15 PM »

seeing as the terrible shaving assault has caused multiple pages of pointless yet liberated debate on these here very forums, should it not have taken place every single reader/poster's lives would have been very slightly different in ways we cannot acurately speculate over.

should time travel enable us to avert the shaving and following video, saving the maiden from almost certain suicide, i wonder how many of us would have knocked a drink over instead of typing a reply.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #73 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:14:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Seagoon
Hi Laser,

Forgive the late reply, I wasn't ignoring, just didn't spot your post.

I hope you'll also forgive me but I think that trial and error is the worst form of childrearing.

For instance, as they are growing up we teach our children not to grab the handle of the boiling pot on the hot stove, not to stick the fork in the electrical socket, not to run into the road after the ball, not to get into cars with strangers, etc. We don't, for instance, expect them to learn simply by putting the toddler into a room with a boiling pot and letting him figure it out without our interference. While third degree burns will undoubtedly teach the little tyke a "massive" lesson he'll never forget, but is that the best way to educate and admonish?

You are right to point out that I went the trial and error route myself, but its only by the grace of God that I'm alive and not in jail today. I can think of at least 2 incidents where my foolishness should have gotten me killed, and several where I could have been arrested, including one where had customs in the US or UK really been on the ball I'd probably have done time. I also really, really, wish today that I had the brain cells and short term memory that I killed, back. I ended up hurting myself and plenty of others by my "screw-ups" and regret heartily many of my decisions.

Personally I don't think that a boatload of regrets, a seared conscience, and maybe an STD or two is what your kids should be graduating or failing to graduate from college or high-school with. I'd rather my sons and daughters learned from Daddy's recounting how unpleasant sticking the fork in the lightsocket was and why we shouldn't do it than by giving them all forks and leaving them alone in the room.

I'd also like to give them a working moral compass that would lead them to see why making decisions like the ones in the video are ethically wrong even if they don't lead to physical or emotional harm every time.

Of course you don't let your kids find out the bad stuff by ourselves. But we do it anyway. I remember vividly as a kid my mother telling me that the oven was hot. Yet I still wondered myself, and I reached out and grabbed a rack.

But that's free will.

Kids mess up and become better because of it (hopefully).

I regret far more things I did NOT do then the times I got caught with my pants down.