Author Topic: What's better, F4U-1 or la7? (Read 3398 times)

Gaidin · « **Reply #30 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:51:04 AM »

It really doesnt seem to matter whats best. It all comes down to the pilot. If you can make the other guy fight your fight, you will win most times. I have killed many F4U's( all varients) and La7's in Hurri's, A6M's, F4U's, N1k's, and Ki84's. Its all about getting the other guy to mess up. If Im in an A6M and I can get you into a turn fight, I will win the biggest percentage of time.

Pilot skill is the key, not the Plane you fly.

SkyRock · « **Reply #31 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:54:31 AM »

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Originally posted by JensK
How modest in a post you so minutely describes how you allegedly beat
someone so easily, save for some very common standard excuses about
trees and discoes...

Anyone can suck on this since youre not alone. There are a lot of prima donnas playing this game and Im getting soo sick and tired of hearing this chest beating rants over and over again. Like its some sort of therapy for building up or strengthening self confidence.

bah!

im out

I was just giving the perspective, sorry you can't handle it! He said after we both augered, which was unclearly stated, those two where he augered and I hit a tree, I was 400 out his 6 and about to kill him! doesn't sound like chest thumping to me! We had fun, there was no ill feelings, we were testing a theory abouthog's and la7's and I thought it went pretty good! Now, if you want to call it excuses, go ahead, it still won'tchange what happened or how it happened! I saluted viking and thanked him for the fights, I guess that doesn't meet your standards for showing respect!

Mark

FiLtH · « **Reply #32 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:57:42 AM »

Ive always said its the pilot not the plane. And that usually holds true to a point. When you have 2 good pilots, the plane is usually the deciding factor.

SkyRock · « **Reply #33 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:57:45 AM »

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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
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LMAO! I was just retorting to the opening statement by him, "after we both augered" which was misleading, but your account of my post is much more funny!:rofl

Mark

SkyRock · « **Reply #34 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:00:11 AM »

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Originally posted by FiLtH
Ive always said its the pilot not the plane. And that usually holds true to a point. When you have 2 good pilots, the plane is usually the deciding factor.

Actually, I believe that it's the pilot not the plane as well, I was just tired of reading G55 and ME410 threads!:D

Mark

Gatr · « **Reply #35 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:27:42 AM »

I think I'm goin to the TA w/ Widewing......
I need a steady ride,.......

bozon · « **Reply #36 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:30:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Husky01
psssst please we all know the the D11-O-Death owns everything:D

Aye! fear the spitbolt!

Viking · « **Reply #37 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:46:17 AM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
And here's the rest of the story.....
He extended zoom climbed after every merge, 1st I get overshoot get on his 6 and he augers. 2nd I get overshoot get on his 6 and accidentally hit a magically appearing tree as I pull trigger. 3rd I get over shoot get on his 6 in vert and go to kill him and no hits( conv set to 200 gahhh!) so he falls down on me and kils me(rope). 3rd I get him to overshoot and get on his 6 and kill him. 4th I go vert with him(after setting conv to 500) and blast him out of sky! 5th I get on his 6 and kill him.

Not wanting to rain on your parade SkyRock, but you flew well enough that score padding shouldn’t be necessary

We only had five fights, two ending in augers, one victory for me (first blood btw

), and two victories for you. You beat me 2 out of 3, you should be content with that!

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Originally posted by SkyRock
I was just giving the perspective, sorry you can't handle it! He said after we both augered, which was unclearly stated…

As for the auguring story I smell a little bruised ego. In the first fight I made the mistake of doing a split-s at too low altitude, turning my expensive government machine in to a fancy lawn ornament. In the second fight, after my miserably executed B & Znore gun pass, you made the mistake of trying to squeeze out that last mph out of your altitude, trying to get a parting shot as I pulled away, and wrapped your purdy blue plane around a tree. We both F’ed up and paid the price.

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Originally posted by Widewing
Anyone interested in a "come to Jesus" experience, grab their Tempest meet my F4U-4 in the TA Tuesday thru Thursday evenings. 1v1, the Tempest can't handle the F4U-4. In the MA, the Tempest can run. In a duel, it must stay and fight.

The question was the best prop fighter in the game, not the best prop jousting plane. In duels you are not allowed to use the advantages of speed since that would effectively turn the fight into a series of HO merges. And since “running” isn’t legal either (at least by ladder rules) the turn fighters are the best jousting planes.

In a 1 on 1 duel I’d imagine the A6M being better than the F4U-1. It has superior or equal climb at all altitudes, superior low-speed acceleration and (vastly) superior turning circle on the F4U. The only advantage the F4U-1 has is speed … which it can’t use in a duel.

Of course, none of this has any relevance to either real life combat or MA combat.

killnu · « **Reply #38 on:** April 04, 2007, 10:25:39 AM »

K4 owns all prop planes....Ive solved the mystery for you all, now move on with your lives.

Joachim · « **Reply #39 on:** April 04, 2007, 10:28:53 AM »

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Originally posted by killnu
K4 owns all prop planes....Ive solved the mystery for you all, now move on with your lives.

Can you teach me this, a small lesson or two in DA/TA? Just telling me what I'm doing horribly wrong on vox is all I really need for instruction.

Kuhn · « **Reply #40 on:** April 04, 2007, 10:48:15 AM »

La-5 RULES

Gatr · « **Reply #41 on:** April 04, 2007, 10:50:14 AM »

vote A 26...

opps wrong thread
lol

Viking · « **Reply #42 on:** April 04, 2007, 10:51:25 AM »

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Originally posted by killnu
K4 owns all prop planes....Ive solved the mystery for you all, now move on with your lives.

With an Experten at the controls that is very true. However, very few have the skill and patience to fly the Kurfurst successfully. Between 7k and 25k the 109K is the fastest prop plane and best climber in the game, bar none.

SkyRock · « **Reply #43 on:** April 04, 2007, 11:03:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Not wanting to rain on your parade SkyRock, but you flew well enough that score padding shouldn’t be necessary We only had five fights, two ending in augers, one victory for me (first blood btw ), and two victories for you. You beat me 2 out of 3, you should be content with that!

As for the auguring story I smell a little bruised ego. In the first fight I made the mistake of doing a split-s at too low altitude, turning my expensive government machine in to a fancy lawn ornament. In the second fight, after my miserably executed B & Znore gun pass, you made the mistake of trying to squeeze out that last mph out of your altitude, trying to get a parting shot as I pulled away, and wrapped your purdy blue plane around a tree. We both F’ed up and paid the price.

The question was the best prop fighter in the game, not the best prop jousting plane. In duels you are not allowed to use the advantages of speed since that would effectively turn the fight into a series of HO merges. And since “running” isn’t legal either (at least by ladder rules) the turn fighters are the best jousting planes.

In a 1 on 1 duel I’d imagine the A6M being better than the F4U-1. It has superior or equal climb at all altitudes, superior low-speed acceleration and (vastly) superior turning circle on the F4U. The only advantage the F4U-1 has is speed … which it can’t use in a duel.

Of course, none of this has any relevance to either real life combat or MA combat.

I am just telling it the way the film shows it. You claim first blood, which is lame and funny in the same breath. You are twisting the facts way out of line. Manipulating what really happened. I have 6 films, first U augered into the ground with me 300 out ur six and you being completely ownt!. the second I hit a tree lining up a shot from 400 out on your 6 where again you were attempting to run after being ownt! . the third I went for a 400 out shot and missed u get the rope on me. the 4th you go for rope again I get you 400 out. the 5th u actually turn fight and it ends quick with me coming around and over on you in complet3e ownage. the 6th YOu go for a spiral rope and I cut the angle and get you totally ownt. Now you can belittle the ownage all you want, but it was very evident what was happening. At no time did you ever get my 6, unless you call the bnz getting my 6! lol You got one kill on me from shooting and that was the rope. I don't care about an ego near as much as I care about being honest about what happened. You are the one who came in here and manipulated what really happened to make it sound like it was kind of close. I had a vet in the DA the other day and out of 8 fights, I only went down one for a collision with him, he said that's one for me! lol Some people must find a way to not lose even if it is by manipulating their little world! And since you are being somewhat of an arse about it, you probably do need to stick with the la7 as it is known for it's running capabilities and your acm would probably lend itself to running much!!:aok

Mark

Viking · « **Reply #44 on:** April 04, 2007, 11:42:31 AM »

Sure no ego lol. In retrospect I shouldn't have been chivalrous and given you 2 out of 3 and played by your “rules”, you’re not worth it. I should have taken my victory and left you whining about “timidness” and “dweebyness”. To have to take all this crap from someone who barely manages a 3 to 1 k/d in the F4U, in a squad even. So far this tour you’ve managed 16 kills for 4 deaths. Wow, I’m impressed … really puts my 53 kills and 2 deaths in the Bf 110G to shame. You’re all mouth, but got nothing to show for it.