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Offline Movie

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« on: April 04, 2007, 07:00:27 PM »
I'm having trouble with jap planes, which american plane do you see fit for dealing with japs.

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2007, 07:08:31 PM »
P-38 is a good choice, so is the Hellcat, P-47, F4U, and P-51B/D are some others that come into mind.

And not to sound PC or anything but in the future it would be better to refer to them simply as either IJN/IJAAF or Japanese planes.  "Jap" has some negative conations to it as "Jap" is and was soley used as a deregotory reference to the Japanese.


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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2007, 07:23:20 PM »
I've found that I lose to F6F's more that any other American fighter when I'm in a zero.  But I'm sure some F4U pilots would prove me wrong.  As usual, it all depends on the individual.

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2007, 07:55:15 PM »
Also keep in mind that Japanese fighters vary quite a bit in performance.  The A6M2 is very different from the Ki-61 or Ki-84.  So what might make a great A6M2 killer may find the Ki-84 a nasty customer to take on.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2007, 08:15:22 PM »
The Hog is uber when it comes to Japanese aircraft.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2007, 08:28:11 PM »
You're fighting their fight and not yours. For whatever reason, be it when and how you engage, or just your style.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2007, 09:19:43 PM »
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You're fighting their fight and not yours. For whatever reason, be it when and how you engage, or just your style.


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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2007, 01:16:53 PM »
zeros are somewhat an easy prey ki84 im having trouble with them. when im a fast plane they just turn fight all day, when im in a good turn plane they out run me so they nasty

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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2007, 01:29:04 PM »
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when im a fast plane they just turn fight all day


Don't turn. :eek:
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2007, 01:31:29 PM »
yea i do a loop then when i complete it they just keep flaming my rear time and again

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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2007, 01:41:19 PM »
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yea i do a loop then when i complete it they just keep flaming my rear time and again


Ki84 is very good in the vertical. If you loop they can and will follow you so don't do that. Keep your alt because they tend to loose parts at high speed. If you get caught by one dive away.

Go here and read up on some of the planes. Some of the info is a little dated but most all of it still aplies.

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 01:42:06 PM »
Ki-84's turning ability drops off fast above 250mph.  Stay fast in an F4U or P-51 and you should be able to out manuver them.  If the speed drops to 170mph they can get their flaps out and then you are in trouble.  Also, it accelerates well initially, so pulling away once slow is dodgy at best.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 02:01:31 PM »
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zeros are somewhat an easy prey ki84 im having trouble with them. when im a fast plane they just turn fight all day, when im in a good turn plane they out run me so they nasty


Yep.  Ki-84 Frank is my favorite turn fighter in the game.  Good acceleration.  Good fighter in the vertical.  Good turner.  Decent gun package.  ENY of 15 against all the ENY 5 planes for better points.  Decent visibility.  Weak rice-paper plane though, so it won't take punishment.  

Will often surprise new players loping along in the Pony-D's, La-7's, Nikis, and Splixteens.   Ki-84 vs a P-38 can be an especially good fight.

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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2007, 02:12:19 PM »
only thing I will disagree with their ted.

Ki84 soaks up the lead unless your shooting cannon it can take some hits.

The tail section and stabs are the weakest points on the KI 84 and Niki.

There are tougher planes but I wouldnt call the KI 84 rice paper compared to the zeros and mossie.
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2007, 05:12:22 PM »
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only thing I will disagree with their ted.

Ki84 soaks up the lead unless your shooting cannon it can take some hits.

The tail section and stabs are the weakest points on the KI 84 and Niki.

There are tougher planes but I wouldnt call the KI 84 rice paper compared to the zeros and mossie.


no wonder, i kept putting lead on him but wouldnt fall, if it was a zero it would be a big fireball by now lol