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Offline TequilaChaser

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« on: April 05, 2007, 12:36:24 PM »
if you have high electricity bills, have hot/cold spots in your home, have humidity control issues in your home, and you live in costal regions or in hot dry or hot humid climate regions. you might wna t to consider having your attic FOAMED....

meaning have a qualified company come in and spray Closed-Cell Foam insulation or Open-cell Foam insulation on the underside of your roof in the attic.

some of the benfits are:
-reduce Utility ( electricity use/cost for cooling/heating ) from 30% to 60%
the company I work for does tihs, and I have seen Customer's Electic bills drop from 480+ to 168.00/ 530 to 185.00 / 345 to 150 and so on........

-You reduce the wear & tear on your AC & Heating equipment ( system will now run about 1/4 to 1/3 the time of what it did before the FOAM was installed )

- You will control Humdidty in your home, the attic becomes part of the indoor conditioned envelope, so bugs/critters/rats/dirt etc... are not inflitrating in to your attic and even into your house.....dust problems become almost non-existent  after the foam is put in. Your attic will be about the same temperature as your Living Room (indoors)....no more 200 degree attics.

- More even temperatures through out the entire home ( no more hot or cold spots )

an example I use regarding the cost of doing this FOAM installation is: say you had for example $5,000 or $10,000 and you went and deposited it in your savings acct or in a CD at the bank, and let it set there to mature or for a minimal of 10 years............what would you have earned/made off of it?

now take that same $5,000 or $10,000 and use it to have the Closed Cell Foam sprayed into your attic, you will see your Elect. Bill drop a good bit the very 1st month, and you will continue to see that savings for the rest of the time you are at this home, it will actually on most accts pay for itself in 5 years or less, with normally 5 years + til you leave the home or this life of pure profit after that( compare that to the 10 year waiting on your money u put in that CD, see which earns you more!!!)

when  you spend to do the FOAM you will  increase the equity of your home,   by about 2 to 2 1/2 times of what you actually spent.......

depending on the SEER rating of your AC system and age of your home, your home might even qualify for an energy Efficient or even energy Star Label with the state you live in.

You will earn an energy tax credit write-off as well......

I have done Air Conditioning and Heating for nearly 19 years,  I do custom duct & system designs, I am a certified Florida Energy Rater,  and an Energy Analysis Consultant as well. where I do system performance testing/ Building performance testing and  IAQ consulting ( Indoor Air Quality )

if you are interested in saving money, improving your home,  having healthy cleaner indoor air, and a more relaxing indoor climate then  check out the following links

http://www.buildingscience.com
http://www.buildingamerica.com
http://www.energystar.org

if you are interested and want more info, drop me an email or a PM.......

hope some of you might find this information of value

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« Last Edit: April 05, 2007, 12:38:35 PM by TequilaChaser »
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 12:46:29 PM »
The hot new construction around here is metal buildings. Almost every one of them uses spray foam insulation. It works great and is very cost effective. It's like turning your house into a styrofoam ice chest. It also is a great sound insulator.

I'm planning on using it on my house addition.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2007, 12:48:41 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2007, 12:52:14 PM »
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? don't get it Ripsnort
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2007, 12:54:13 PM »
If you have soffit vents in the attic, how will foam on the underside of the roof reduce the utility bills?

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2007, 12:58:00 PM »
what's the approximate cost range per sq ft?
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2007, 01:00:40 PM »
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If you have soffit vents in the attic, how will foam on the underside of the roof reduce the utility bills?


He is talking about a "hot roof" system, you take out the vents.

Works well with a metal, tile or concrete roof but will wreck composition roofs pretty quickly.

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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2007, 01:04:01 PM »
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If you have soffit vents in the attic, how will foam on the underside of the roof reduce the utility bills?


is why I mentioned getting a Qualified company to do it, they go in and prep, sealing off all soffits, cap vents, ridge vents, gable type vents before doing the Foam spraying......

hmm, Rip might have meant the building science link, the page looks like it has changed to a spam site..............weird...wil l find out here it went......
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2007, 01:06:04 PM »
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He is talking about a "hot roof" system, you take out the vents.

Works well with a metal, tile or concrete roof but will wreck composition roofs pretty quickly.

shamus


shamus, why do you think it will wreck a composition roof?  would like to hear(read) your theory.....
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2007, 01:11:26 PM »
Heat is the major enemy of asphalt shingles.

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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2007, 01:48:11 PM »
my bad for the buildingcience.com link,  no idea why the site changed

here is 2 more links,  

http://www.eeba.org

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http://www.eeba.org/resources/dumbsouth/default.htm


A  composition/shingled roof has an average heat absorbtion factor of roughly 85%, meaning when you use a vented attic  with batt/blown in type insulation you are soaking up 85% of the heat from the sun hitting your roofline. when you install the closed cell foan you reduce this absorbtion factor to less than 10%..the roof becomes more reflective the roof actually becomes cooler now on both sides, than it would be if you used a vented attic.......


I recently did the Spring Home & Patio show here in Jacksonville, Florida....... we had a display set up to show the difference between the 2 types..... using heat lamps and such......
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 02:13:41 PM »
Be warned,I used to sell this stuff,and if not done properly your roof will have to be replaced.If it starts to leak the roofer can,t remove the tiles.What do you do...new roof!!!!I got so many complaints from people that used the company,I decided to leave.

I would not use it on my property,but maybe in the US,the installation and quality is better.

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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 02:19:29 PM »
i shall immediately inform my broker to purchase 10,000 shares of the stock.

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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2007, 02:31:58 PM »
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i shall immediately inform my broker to purchase 10,000 shares of the stock.


No John, don't do that!

Not until you have heard about my superior offer to cut you in on 10% of my *new* discount pharmacy, fauxlex watch store, and money transfer service for the wives of deceased African dictators.

I'm sure you've had offers like this before, but never before has someone audaciously bundled together all three at once, we will become the internet's one stop shop for the extremely greedy and gullible.

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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2007, 02:42:51 PM »
I read an online article written by a foam insulation guy.  He explained how the concept of R-value is BS because all insulations are tested without wind, drafts or humidity.  With real world wind, drafts and humidity most insulations perform no where near as well as their indicated R-value would suggest.  Spray foam is the only insulation that is not seriously hurt by these things.  Rigid foam can do well, but almost never is installed well enough and usually has gaps that let drafts through.

TequilaChaser is rightfully enthusiastic about a great product and service that most people are clueless about.