Author Topic: If the Flying Tigers flew P-39s, would the Aircobra have a better reputation?  (Read 1249 times)

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You should put in print that you'll eat your hat if it does :p
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Offline Kweassa

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The very fact that the Soviets loved it as THE premiere fighter of the Eastern Front, before the Lavochkins and Yaks evolved enough to become the uber planes, itself warrants attention IMO.

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I could see use for it in special events. I dont fly in special events and it will be eaten alive in main.

P-40E is a fun ride...

Look at the k4 only reason why you dont see more in the air is because of the ammo load out. The yaks are the same. Both are great fights but with small round counts they dont get used.

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Originally posted by eskimo2
Seriously, we think favorably of the P-40 even though it was no match for many of the Japanese planes it fought against.  General Chennault was brilliant and trained his Flying Tigers to take every advantage they could.  The Warhawk is considered a great airplane mostly due to the AVG’s smart tactics.  Aviation buffs are willing to recognize that its weaknesses were mostly due to it being a pre-war early design.  
 


The P-40 was a very capable fighter, with significant advantages over the enemy planes they faced, which Chennault correctly exploited.  AVG to my knowledge rarely if ever faced the Japanese A6M2 "Zero" in combat, and it's most significant rival was the much less capable Ki-43.  The P-40 was easy to service, tough, and fantasticly good at energy fighting compared to its rivals.  The P-40 was the proper plane for the AVG to use in the harsh environment of the Far Eastern jungles.  I do not dispute that the P-39 has better performance, but total cost including maintenance I am sure made the P-40 the plane of choice for the struggling Chinese.  It was hardly a piece of crap plane, and in many ways superior to the Japanese planes it faced.

It can be argued that the flight models of this game are not completely accruate, but if they are even close to accurate, I would conclude that the P-40 would be my plane of choice against all versions of the A6M based on my experience.  It has the ability to choose its fights, and leave a fight if it needs to.  This is a very important advantage that the A6M does not enjoy.  It dives better, and it holds on to its energy longer, allowing it to escape, and operate better in anything other than 1 vs. 1 engagements.

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Originally posted by tedrbr
It just won't win.


It might win.... We have more fighter jocks than bomber jocks.

I'd guess the odds are 60/40 in favor of the P-39.

As I said when this first began, the P-39 and B-25 would be the final choices as these are the most recognized of the lot.

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The p-39 will do just fine in the LWA. It's a very good fighter at lower alt's and was prefered by many soviet aces over the La-5FN and La-7. It also held its oen in the Pacific. It's primary use was in port Morseby (sp?) where it was defending against bombers/zekes coming over the mountains at 20k or more. It had to up with little warning and climb into the attacks...even so the P-39s inflicted hvy losses and actually did a better job then the spitVII's that replaced them....

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Not likely.  

Much of it's bad rep was because it had a tendancy toward killing it's own pilots.



 
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The p-39 will do just fine in the LWA. It's a very good fighter at lower alt's and was prefered by many soviet aces over the La-5FN and La-7. It also held its oen in the Pacific. It's primary use was in port Morseby (sp?) where it was defending against bombers/zekes coming over the mountains at 20k or more. It had to up with little warning and climb into the attacks...even so the P-39s inflicted hvy losses and actually did a better job then the spitVII's that replaced them....


Spitfire VII's eh? :rolleyes:

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It will all depend on how HTC models it.  I bet there will be a few people who will get really good in the P-39.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I can hear the AVG radio now:
“Huh huh huh… Retards!”  
“Yea! Yea!  Retards!”


and if the Japanese had radios, you'd hear on Channel 200:

Japanese pilot: BINGO! I'M RTB!
Japanese pilot: WTF!  I said I was BINGO!


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Offline TimRas

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The p-39 will do just fine in the LWA.

No, it won't.
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..was prefered by many soviet aces over the La-5FN and La-7.

No, it wasn't.
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It also held its oen in the Pacific.

No, it didn't.

And I still vote for the P-39.

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I think it’s safe to say that the P-40B is the worst fighter on the menu. Its poor rate of climb does it in.

:huh  i killed 2 spit16`s with it last night
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"we think favorably of the P-40 even though it was no match for many of the Japanese planes it fought against"

Thats mythology.

A P-40B or P-40E was more than capable of fighting early war IJAAF a/c. Just because they had to adjust their tactics doesnt make them inferior.

...and the AVG was by no means the only Allied unit to do well in P-40s vs the Japanese.

Would it have had a "better reputation" (re: P-39 and the AVG), sure, I guess , but you are talking "fame" not reality. Famous doesn't equal ability. My answer is "so what if it would have been?" doesnt change the a/c ability.

The short answer is "yes". It would have been remembered more favorably.
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It's not like the P-40 gets a lot of use in the MAs.  I think everybody knows that the P-40 is a sub par aircraft.



sub-par compared to what???   Against planes of it's own era it does quite well.  Are you comparing it to a Fw190d9? ...or Spit16?? ...or are you comparing it against the planes it actually fought like  Ki-27's? ...Ki-43's?
Bf109e's??   ....Bf110c's??

I'm sorry...I thought i was playing a game populated by fans of WW2 avation....i didn't realse that all  that matters is how a plane does in the stupid LWA? .....what a joke
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I guess he was comparing it to the 1945 aircraft. :rolleyes:
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