Author Topic: Bill O'Reilly vs Geraldo (FOX bout) (Read 2003 times)

dmf · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2007, 12:36:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Slash27
So he has to have a "connection" to them to care? Your post comes off as assuming and cheap shots.

thats not the point, he only opened his mouth cause the guy is an Illegal alien, if it had been some average guy on his way home from work it'd have never made it out of the local news paper.

dmf · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2007, 12:37:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Russian
When a cop stops you for speeding, do you point finger at passing cars and say “what about them?”

No as a matter of fact I don't

Yeager · « **Reply #17 on:** April 07, 2007, 12:41:38 AM »

Time to put up the NO VACANCY sign....expect that Bill Gates wants many more smart immigrants because the US is putting out vast numbers of total ****ing idiots.

Russian · « **Reply #18 on:** April 07, 2007, 12:52:17 AM »

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Originally posted by dmf
No as a matter of fact I don't

Good, then don't bring up others. Bill can't promote his point through some other dead girl.

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 07, 2007, 01:00:16 AM »

DMF, not to come off as a smartass, but can you prove that Mary Carver WASN'T killed by an Illegal Alien???

You guys oughta come to SoCal sometime...Drive around South Central LA.

The problems you have back east will pale in comparison.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #20 on:** April 07, 2007, 01:09:09 AM »

I don't think Bill's point wasn't so much the illegal alien aspect, until Geraldo made that, but the fact that the local and state officials repeated failure in getting someone who was an illegal back to their country of origin. Because of that failure 2 teenage girls died. The mayor of Virginia Beach looked especially clueless. I really don't miss the Tidewater area at all.

FiLtH · « **Reply #21 on:** April 07, 2007, 02:07:13 AM »

What a bunch of crap. Anyone truly passionate doesnt turn off their emotions at the end of a segment like that. TV sux.

Kurt · « **Reply #22 on:** April 07, 2007, 02:25:21 AM »

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Originally posted by BTW
Its not a debate, its shtick and both are pleased at the publicity. Twenty years pass and everyone forgets a flying chair and fat nose. *NOTHING* has changed. Its shtick. If you think you witnessed conviction - oh well.

SPOT ON THE MONEY.

Both of them are arguing a valid point, and it was set up by the network.. You see, thats why at the end, its all play nice. Its Schtick. And there is this whole crowd of idiots (and if any of you are members, sorry for the offence) who buy into this perverted 'FOX' version of reality where everyone screams and yells and no one makes a point.

If you believe O'reiley is about anything other than Bill's paycheck... You're a chump. If you believe Heraldo is about anything other than Heraldo's paycheck you're a chump.

Fox loves you chumps.

Other than Family guy and Simpsons, I don't have fox... If it ain't animation, its not on fox in my house. Fox is 5 steps worse than the anti-Christ.

68Hawk · « **Reply #23 on:** April 07, 2007, 06:47:12 AM »

This is just my own opinion, but anyone who takes Bill O'Reily seriously needs more of a reality check than he does. He's getting paid to buy that crap.

I wish we could all just get past these losers and have real discourse in this country. What a wonderful world we could make without pundits and their ilk.

Refuse to watch and he might just go away. Gosh, we could be so lucky!

P.S. Please don't think I'm fond of Bill Maher either!

lukster · « **Reply #24 on:** April 07, 2007, 08:14:15 AM »

Those girls would not have been killed by that guy if our borders were enforced. That's a fact, plain and simple. O'Reilly can be obnoxious and arrogant but he does get things accomplished, unlike the vast majority of our politicians.

Slash27 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 07, 2007, 08:18:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Kurt
SPOT ON THE MONEY.

Both of them are arguing a valid point, and it was set up by the network.. You see, thats why at the end, its all play nice. Its Schtick. And there is this whole crowd of idiots (and if any of you are members, sorry for the offence) who buy into this perverted 'FOX' version of reality where everyone screams and yells and no one makes a point.

If you believe O'reiley is about anything other than Bill's paycheck... You're a chump. If you believe Heraldo is about anything other than Heraldo's paycheck you're a chump.

Fox loves you chumps.

Other than Family guy and Simpsons, I don't have fox... If it ain't animation, its not on fox in my house. Fox is 5 steps worse than the anti-Christ.

5 steps worse then the anti-Christ? What a loon.

republic · « **Reply #26 on:** April 07, 2007, 08:41:19 AM »

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Originally posted by 68Hawk

I wish we could all just get past these losers and have real discourse in this country. What a wonderful world we could make without pundits and their ilk.

Amen!

The problem today both in TV and in the minds of American's is that disagreement should not be tolerated. One side is always absolutely right, and one side is absolutely wrong...

This is what the pundits and the media want to encourage...it keeps you watching their channels at the exclusion of others. An automatic dedicated fanbase to drive up advertising profits.

I'd like to see our politicians face questions from the average Joe, not pre-agreed upon pre-selected, content screened "average Joes". Oh, and while we're at it...make them actually answer the question rather than spew out soundbites quicker than an outsourced tech support person reads from his/her script.

Could they even answer a question they haven't rehersed days in advance?

SirLoin · « **Reply #27 on:** April 07, 2007, 08:56:08 AM »

Bill is right but that was unprofessional..He looked bad in losing it as a TV host.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #28 on:** April 07, 2007, 09:04:25 AM »

Geraldo was playing devil's advocate to O'Reilly. O'Reilly is a tool. I recall Geraldo opening "Capone's Vault" and finding an empty wine bottle.

Speed55 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 07, 2007, 09:34:07 AM »

The bottom line is this:

The girl was killed by an illegal immigrant that should have been deported.

Maybe there is a drunk driving problem in the region, but that's a secondary issue to the case.
I didn't like the "what if's" coming out of geraldo's mouth, and i don't think O'reilly did either. The girl WAS NOT killed by someone named "bubba, or somethingsky". So it's a non issue and is irrelevant to what happened.

If the P.O.S. judge dealt with the problem that caused what happened IN THIS TRAGEDY, then ramos would have been deported and the girl would still be alive. There's no WHAT IF we deported him, and bubba killed her, because bubba is a fictional person and ramos is real.

So let's face the facts. Statistics mean nothing, an AMERICAN CITIZEN was killed by an ILLEGAL ALIEN. Why can't people just see it for what it is, and take the appropriate action to keep the country safe.

We do have savages that ARE american citizens, and they should be dealt with accordingly, but to try and change facts, or make up "what if" situations to take away from really happened is totally wrong, and disrespectful to the father and sister. The father even said there's something wrong with the system, and border policy in the interview.
Maybe even through all he's going through, he is still concerned that the death of another innocent can be avoided?