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« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2007, 07:04:46 PM »
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My argument comes down to how can the majority of online voters, with the plane usage trends they've displayed from the statistics pulled from the website, keep a plane in the running whose performance parameters, compared to similar aircraft in the game, will place it down in the lower 1/3rd, at best, as far as usage?
Take your logic to its ultimate conclusion, you are basically arguing that the majority of players would be just fine with having the plane set limited to the top 5 models.  Hogwash.

If the top 5 planes represent the "elite" planes of the game, and the majority of players wanted to fly only an "elite" plane, then you would not have 73% of total kills/deaths in planes that are NOT in that group of 5.  

Stated another way, every time a decision is made by a player whether to take an "elite", performance-driven aircraft, or one that is "sub-par", 73% of the time it is the sub-par performer that is picked.  

We have plenty of "uber-rides", and most people choose to fly something different.  That is what the usage trend shows.  It baffles me why that is not clear to you.
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« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2007, 07:24:48 PM »
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P-39Q




P-39Q ammo



These were taken last year at the Kalamazoo AirZoo.


Mash you might want to take a look at that 37mm again.  Looks like it has too much neck to be the 37x145R used with the Olds gun.

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« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2007, 08:46:48 PM »
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I guess you simply do things differently than HT LePaul.

First he built a Flight Sim and then a forum to go with it,  you have built a forum, and then an R2D2.


LOL  :)

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« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2007, 10:25:35 PM »
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I'm fairly certain that the P-39Q will be modeled because it fits the MWA and LWAs,


Oh, ok. So the model thats presented for votes hasnt been officially announced.
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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2007, 12:32:26 AM »
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Mash you might want to take a look at that 37mm again.  Looks like it has too much neck to be the 37x145R used with the Olds gun.

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202530


It is a 37mm shell training round.   Talk to Kalamazoo AirZoo.
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« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2007, 02:42:29 AM »
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Yes that makes perfect business sense. Let's pick an aircraft to satisfy 10% of our gaming public. Never mind the other 90%.


Well, when you have a vote, open to 100% of the players, and the plane is picked by a majority vote of all players, I assume more than 10% are the ones that want it.

Edit:  Oops.  I see this point was already made.

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« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2007, 03:00:27 AM »
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And what about that fighter? Let's examine the P-39Q-1.


Perk the P-39Q! :)

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« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2007, 10:06:21 AM »
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These were taken last year at the Kalamazoo AirZoo.


Damn ... if that tower doesn't look like the one we have in the game.
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« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2007, 10:56:48 AM »
PERK THE TREES WHILE YOUR AT IT



Uber trees I say....

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« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2007, 01:08:29 PM »
See below  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2007, 01:13:06 PM »
As a Florida State fan I don't usually agree with a Gator but I have to agree with him on perking the trees!!  LOL




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« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2007, 02:46:47 PM »
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Hap said....

"Hawk,

What do you want to convey by "original?"

That's a pretty good question Hap. I don't see either plane as being very interesting.  One of the things I found really nice about Aces High was the wider variation of planes available to fly than in WB or WBII.  I mean where can you go to fly an Arado or for that matter drive a Tiger Tank?

Both planes have roles that are already covered by a number of different planes in the inventory so I was looking for something that was still a bit out of the ordinary.  

You would be right if you were to conclude that I wasn't all that impressed with a couple of the planes on the list we started with. (The Buffalo would be a good example).  I thought the more obscure Japanese or Russian planes were more interesting than the two planes in the finals but I don't want to leave you - or anyone else - thinking that I am all upset about the wins and loses I was just hoping for something more 'original' (or maybe I should have used the word 'interesting').


Thanks for getting back to me.  I had hoped you would.  I have read nothing and neither talked to anyone that has said what I suppose might be case is in fact true.  That is, HTC will model an aircraft after the voting and maybe add another that they "guys" want to see. Maybe be an "intersting" one.

The SBD I put in that category.  I flew it precious little -- mostly when I was commanding a CV and needed an observation platform.

As the plane set grows -- and I hope that one day the planes that players didn't vote in &/or HTC add on their own --- the chances of "interesting" combos exist to an even greater degree.  More for the imagination to get ahold of I guess -- especially the scenario makers.  That's way interesting to me even though work always got in the way and I've flew only one in the past years.  It was fun!!

I don't know that what I'm about to say will ever be available, but it goes to the ideal of imagination and immersion.  Maps that have the right eye candy, terrain changes, things that make a pilot and gv'er say, "oh wow.  look at that!"  Trinity does that for me.  Pulls me in every time especially on the landward side.  Also, maps that HTC models containing real cities e.g. Berlin, Paris, etc.  Taking liberties of course for imigination's sake.

Back to the planes, the set will continue to grow over time.  So, there should be, over time, just about what ever was flown in #'s during WW2.  I'm not considering a WWI or Korea expansion, but that may happen one day.

The same could be hoped for when it comes to fleets and gv's -- which HTC has expanded since I began playing pre-Tiger.

One last word on "interesting," that is something that fires the imagination or upon which our fancy takes hold and we're transported back to that time, and I guess it exists in seed or kernal form now with HTC categorizing the arenas by year -- early -- mid -- late.  It's not where it can be or will be, but the "interest" comes from what one meets during game play.  You know, those factors that happen when folks run a Hurri 1 Raid, or The Attack of Vals.  Those are the examples that spring to mind, but of course there's more and better examples of what I'm trying to say, but I just can't drum them up at the moment.

Thanks again for getting back, and I'll keep my eye on the boards.  No doubt, the AH jones will set in and/or things will just get too "interesting" to not fly -- and missing some of the guys is always a factor.



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« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2007, 04:24:10 AM »
Just been doing some reading up on the P-39.

Of the top-10 Russian aces, four flew the P-39.  Of the top five, #2, #3, and #4 flew the P-39.

That's interesting considering the Russians had about 5000 P-39's but produced about 17,000 Yak 9's, 10,000 La-5's, and 5800 La-7's.  I don't expect the P-39 to be a better plane than Yak 9's or La-7's, but there must have been something good about that plane that can be exploited.

From:

http://www.acepilots.com/planes/soviet_p39_airacobra.html

and

http://www.acesofww2.com/soviet/Soviet.htm