Green Laser Gun Sights

[Halo]

Anybody using green laser sights on your guns?  How do you like them?  Any problems or limitations?

Friend of mine started to buy a red laser/light for his Springfield XD .45 ACP, but delayed until he can check out some of the new green laser sights now being offered.

I read that green laser pointers by themselves are being used in Iraq in traffic checkpoints to slow down or temporarily deter potential problems.  

Green lasers reportedly are much more visible at longer ranges in daylight.  

Do you think green laser gun sights eventually will replace red laser gun sights?

[VOR]

In my opinion, they're a gimmick and not very useful.

[VOR]

Oops, I meant to post this in your other laser sight thread.

[Geary420]

Originally posted by Halo

Do you think green laser gun sights eventually will replace red laser gun sights?

How is the price on them? Traditionally green lasers have been much more expensive than comparable red lasers.

[Xargos]

I'd rather buy another gun then buy a laser.  IMHO There is really no need for all that fancy stuff.

P.S.  A laser light travels in a straight line, a .45 round does not. If you intend to be shooting past 25 yards I would not think about it at all with a .45 round.

P.P.S.  I know a State Trooper who can place six rounds of his 1911 model Colt .45 into a two and a half inch circle at 50 yards, he must shoot it close to a 40 degree up angle to make the shots.

[Masherbrum]

Money would be better spent on a quality set of Night Sights.    

Xargos is correct, even though I have Cor Bon 230gr (950 fps) loaded in my USP, I wouldn't be shooting past 15-20 yards.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Xargos

P.P.S.  I know a State Trooper who can place six rounds of his 1911 model Colt .45 into a two and a half inch circle at 50 yards, he must shoot it close to a 40 degree up angle to make the shots.

Well he needs to be training the rest of the nations police forces then.
Cause it seems almost every time I hear of cops using guns these days either they fire a chitload of rounds with only a few hitting their targets.
Or they end up shooing each other by mistake.

Its gotten to the point where its happening so often Im starting to wonder if they shouldnt be called "the Gang that couldnt shoot straight" instead LOL

Now before anyone starts.
Im joking
I know that shooting at a stationary target  at a rangeis alot different then a high pressure situation.

But it does seem to be happing with increasing frequency

[Xargos]

Dred, He's on the pistol team and was ranked number two in the State Comp last time I spoke to him.  He has a reloading machine the size of a small car that can make 3000 rounds an hour and then he can step out the door of his shed and fire them.  Wish I had a setup like that.

P.S.  The more I think about it, the more I think it might have been a Gold Cup .45 he used.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Xargos
Dred, He's on the pistol team and was ranked number two in the State Comp last time I spoke to him.  He has a reloading machine the size of a small car that can make 3000 rounds an hour and then he can step out the door of his shed and fire them.  Wish I had a setup like that.

P.S.  The more I think about it, the more I think it might have been a Gold Cup .45 he used.

all the more reason he should be training the rest of the nations police forces LOL

[Suave]

Green light is the most visable to the human eye, therefore the most effecient, but red lasers are more economical to make.

Really 40 degrees to attain a range of 50 yards? A projectile will have it's maximum range from a trajectory of roughly 45 degrees. If what this state trooper is saying is true, that means the maximum possible range that his 45 will throw a bullet is little more than half a football field. People can throw things farther than that.

[Xargos]

I watched him shoot in his back yard, and it looked close to a 40 degree angle to me.  He said it was not recommended to shoot past 50 yards with a .45 if you can help it.  He showed me how powerful the .45 was at close range compared with other rounds and I was very impressed, but I still prefer my wheelgun.

P.S.  He was talking about how certain rounds overloaded the nerves system better then others and how you wanted the energy to stay in the target instead of traveling through it.  He talks way over my head about the details.

[lazs2]

every lazer sight I have seen is pretty worthless at range... like 20 yards or so because it is moving around so much on the target..  it is amazing at how big of an ark or even circle 8 you will make with a handgun with the sight.

even if you are not nervous.. it will look like you are.

If getting on target is a big deal... learn to use the sights the gun came with or... learn to point shoot... or... get a "ghost ring" or appeture sight.

as for 45's... when my eyes were younger I felt that any 44 mag round that would shoot fist sized groups from 50 yards standing was pretty good... now I can barely do that from a rest..  the 45 will shoot out to 50 yards fairly flat if it is a couple inches high at 25...  

We were shooting some desert plinking at a 4' round target at 400 yards..  The 45 would not reach the target with any hold that made sense.. even aiming at the few puffy clouds the round would drop short.    aiming at blue sky gave no reference.   a 44 mag would reach just by holding up all of the front sight.

lazs

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Xargos

P.P.S.  I know a State Trooper who can place six rounds of his 1911 model Colt .45 into a two and a half inch circle at 50 yards, he must shoot it close to a 40 degree up angle to make the shots.

Is this something you have seen yourself? To me this is either an obvious fabrication or gross exageration. I've shot a .45 out to 100 yards in competition and definitely not used a 40 degree elevation hold.

[Xargos]

Maybe I'm just a bad judge on angles, but I was standing right next to him when he did it and he seemed to be aiming high to me.  I'd be lucky to hit center mass with a .45 at 50 yards.  I've owned several .45s but never really got any good shooting past 25 yards with them.

P.S.  What kind of grouping do you get at 100 yards?

[Maverick]

Stand with one arm pointing straight up. Point the other arm straight ahead parallel to the ground. Half of the angle between straight up and horizontal is 45 degrees or just about what you claim he was shooting at. That's bogus for shooting a .45 at 50 yards unless he's shooting squib loads and those wouldn't have enough recoil to cycle the slide.