Author Topic: gun control... (Read 5933 times)

Bluedog · « **Reply #45 on:** April 13, 2007, 04:35:48 AM »

I dont have to fully agree with the Australian gun laws and the way they came about to not be all that bothered by them.

Nothing I say here will make one bit of differance, that much is obvious, but consider this Aussie gun owner's point that the 'Australian gun ban' that seems to interest you guys so much, passed virtually unnoticed as far as how much differance it made to my and most other peoples ability to purchase and use firearms down here, nothing much has changed.
I can still buy guns and ammo, I can still go shooting when I want.
Where exactly am I being greatly inconvenianced?

If in fact guns had been banned down here and it was impossible to buy a legal weapon, then hell yeah I would be pissed off, but that just isnt what happened at all.

I have no wish to see US citizens lose their RKBA, or have it restricted.
I am not saying our sytem is better than yours.

All I am saying is stop using the 'OMG look what happened in Australia when they lost their guns....its horrible!!' argument, as it is complete and utter bull**** .

lazs2 · « **Reply #46 on:** April 13, 2007, 09:39:51 AM »

blue.. it may not be horrible to you but many people didn't want to give up their guns to be melted down... Many listen to people in the US talk about shooting this or that new semi auto or old military firearm and feel as tho they have been screwed.

It is about protecting the rights of the individual and in that respect.. the ausssie guns laws were an abomination... They were hysterical womanly crap to boot.

It changed the way I think about australians forever. I thought they were more like us than that. It seems that I was wrong and they are more like subjects of the queen and not individuals but... socialists.

And what of the women and older people and infirm? what if they get mugged when a handgun concealed on their person would have saved them? How do you justify that? how is that no big deal?

You can't get guns and ammo and shoot... you think you can but you can't. You are restricted in very serious ways. We can order thousands of rounds of cheap ought six or 223 ammo and plink away with semi autos. In most places we can carry a semi auto handgun on our person and protect ourselves.

criminals can't... it is against the law for them to do so. I would bet that there are more than a few law abiding citizens in your country who are now lawbreakers because of your assinine and immoral gun laws.

And... I think when you shoot a zombie in the head if causes some kind of short circuit. The zombies around here don't seem to be using their brain for any higher functions but they can work simple tools and even drive cars somewhat...

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 13, 2007, 09:43:09 AM »

and.. so far as a revolution here... There would not have to be much support systems other than what is in place... If the government dared to use the military openly on the people it would cause a support stucture to be instantly in place.. not to mention that there would be mass desertions in the police and military.

The only way the government could pull it off would be to get the support of outsiders... say a buttload of blue helmets. That would get ugly too tho.

No matter what tho... it would be far better to be armed than to not be.

lazs

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #48 on:** April 13, 2007, 10:22:12 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
and.. so far as a revolution here... There would not have to be much support systems other than what is in place... If the government dared to use the military openly on the people it would cause a support stucture to be instantly in place.. not to mention that there would be mass desertions in the police and military.

The only way the government could pull it off would be to get the support of outsiders... say a buttload of blue helmets. That would get ugly too tho.

No matter what tho... it would be far better to be armed than to not be.

lazs

The day the US Government lets UN troops of any kind operate inside the US, is the day we should start shooting both.

lazs2 · « **Reply #49 on:** April 14, 2007, 10:15:37 AM »

I think they know that. they will have to disarm us long before that ever happens.

lazs

FLS · « **Reply #50 on:** April 14, 2007, 11:21:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Bluedog
PS allways been curious...........why exactly is it possible to kill a zombie with a headshot? Arent they allready dead? What differance will a bit more of a hole make?

The dead aren't a problem. Zombies are the undead. They can be created by aliens, meteors, plagues, entitlement programs, and biowarfare bugs. Completely disrupting their nervous system stops them. Headshots, decapitation, burning, electrocution, etc. are all effective.

lazs2 · « **Reply #51 on:** April 15, 2007, 09:29:38 AM »

large caliber rounds to the vitals or ones that hit bone can knock a zombie down tho and one laying around flopping around like a 190 being chased is not dangerous.. you can take your time and put a 22 in the brain pan.

most of the guns australia banned would work good on zombies.. especially the ones created by entitlement programs.

lazs

Dago · « **Reply #52 on:** April 15, 2007, 09:44:19 AM »

We will just have to cede Austrailia to the zombies. If we can keep them isolated there, the zombies can fight it out with the snakes, spiders and mice.

Maverick · « **Reply #53 on:** April 15, 2007, 10:16:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Dago
We will just have to cede Austrailia to the zombies. If we can keep them isolated there, the zombies can fight it out with the snakes, spiders and mice.

And we could tell when the zombies take over, how?

Dago · « **Reply #54 on:** April 15, 2007, 04:49:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
And we could tell when the zombies take over, how?

Beer sales will drop off.

Bluedog · « **Reply #55 on:** April 16, 2007, 03:15:32 PM »

See Rule #5

john9001 · « **Reply #56 on:** April 16, 2007, 03:23:51 PM »

bluedog, it is against the LAW to bring a gun on campus. It is also against the law to kill people. The shooter broke at least two laws, how many more laws would have stopped what happened?

criminals don't obey the law, thats why we call them criminals.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #57 on:** April 16, 2007, 03:24:20 PM »

Bluedog, please do not try to use a tradegy that just ocurred as a tool for a political agenda. It is not appropriate. Thank you.

Bluedog · « **Reply #58 on:** April 16, 2007, 03:31:48 PM »

Ooops......sorry Skuzzy, I should have realised and refrained, it wont happen again.

Bluedog · « **Reply #59 on:** April 16, 2007, 03:45:30 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
bluedog, it is against the LAW to bring a gun on campus. It is also against the law to kill people. The shooter broke at least two laws, how many more laws would have stopped what happened?

criminals don't obey the law, thats why we call them criminals.

I dunno John, maybe one banning the manufacture of handguns might have some effect 50 years or so down the track, but short of that I have no idea what the answer to the problem is.
Clearly a problem does exist though.