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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2007, 09:40:02 AM »
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Care to explain why I hit another Sherman in the turret at point blank and it only disabled his turret? Im not sure whether I started recording in time to catch that particular incident, so Im not sure I have any proof. Just a comment.


Seems to me you knocked out the turret. Blowing a hole in a tank does not necessarily kill it, especially with non-explosive penetrators. It might just make an additional viewport for the crew.

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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2007, 04:43:40 PM »
Sherman's finest qualities may not show in AH, - something like range and dependability (range for minimum of overhauls).
So, it was a workhorse and a Firefly could punch a hole in almost anything. Just fine.
The turret traverse is AFAIK also rather good Wasn't that the tactic against the Tigers, - swift moving (360 degs on Tiger = 1 minute?)
And the Panther. IMHO the most beautiful one, and a nasty heavy-medium (13 tonnes or so heavier than a Sherman). But also hampered with mechanical trouble if my memory serves me.
Since that is not a problem in AH, I'd love to see one there :D
BTW, the Shermie is proving itself as quite a battletank in AH, and ground warfare is now even more fun!
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2007, 05:24:26 PM »
I feel the Sherman seems to be tougher than expected head on, and most everything i've had thrown at the frontal armor bounces off if the hull was at more or less than a 80` angle...

but hit it in the side {POOF!}, or the gun mantlet{BANG!},or hey-zues forbid the rear{BOOM!}----------but i digress-------------

Oh yeah and another handy feature, the HurriD punches holes right through the top of this tank at hi dive angles, no problem at all,by and by its shaping up to be just as much a death trap as any other vehicle I dare drive....I give it a thumbs up:aok
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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2007, 05:28:32 PM »
I'd like the T-34/85.  It is a good looking tank as well, pretty capable too.
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« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2007, 09:04:46 AM »
The firefly was I think 1 in 4 of British Shermans and none were deployed by US forces prefering I believe the A10 Tank Destroyer so one day maybe we will have US Shermans, British Cromwells, Comet,s etc and  then the Firefly will be perked but for now I wouldn't change anything.

Worth noting the FF has I think the same gun as the post war British Centurian which was probably the most succesfull post war western Battle Tank.
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« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2007, 01:40:35 AM »
What does "most successful post war battle tank" mean?

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« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2007, 05:51:15 AM »
I think it was recognised to be superior to the US and USSR Tanks of the 40,s 50,s and possibly 60,s and was particularly succesfull in use with the Israli army. Interesting that it had a spitfire engine and the same gun as the firefly.
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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2007, 10:32:00 AM »
It ran on a RR Merlin?!?!?!??? :eek:
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« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2007, 11:08:49 AM »
It had a Rolls-Royce Meteor engine, which is a derivative of the Merlin.

Only the Mark 1 and 2 had the 17 pounder, the Mark 3 was up-gunned to a 20 pounder and the Mark 5 onwards got a 105 mm rifled gun. There were many versions ending with the Mark 13 in British service. However other nations (notably Israel and South Africa) continued to use and update/develop the Centurion.

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« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2007, 12:11:02 PM »
But Viking do you think it was one of the most succesfull post war tanks ?
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« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2007, 12:43:03 PM »
Indeed. If not the most successful post-war tank. Much of its greatness is due to its hugely successful gun, the 105 mm L7. First used on the Centurion the L7 was the mainstay NATO tank gun of the Cold War, arming virtually every British, US and German tank from 1960 onwards. Even early versions of the M1 Abrams used the L7 (M68 in the US) until the German 120 mm smoothbore gun replaced it.