Author Topic: 300 @#$%! (Read 1573 times)

Dowding · « **Reply #30 on:** April 07, 2007, 01:05:57 PM »

68Hawk - I dug out The Histories by Herodotus which has the description of the events around Thermopylae. Some of the parts of the film are taken directly from the account. However, Leonidas dies before the rest of his troops, and the Thespians are present as a separate force holding a bit of raised ground near the entrance to the pass.

Furthermore, the orcs and plague infested soldiers seem to be missing from even Herodotus' fertile imagination.

68Hawk · « **Reply #31 on:** April 07, 2007, 02:54:17 PM »

Lambo, that kind of thing right there is why these movies disgust me. Honestly thats not even the movie so much as the idiot 'history teacher'. If someone who (supposedly) knows what they're talking about can have the issue go right over their head, what are people who aren't trained in history supposed to think?

Dowding, I really should read that. Never been much into the ancient period myself, except for Caesar and the late Republic. Greek history has never really interested me. It's a lot of embellishment and myth thrown in with actual history. Its unavoidable unless one sticks purely to the archaeological record.

I watched the History channel's dissection of 300, and when they can find so much divergence from history you know it's bad. I guess I just don't want to spend my time on something thats just another piece of eye candy. Shiny things just don't catch my eye anymore. What are we fish?

TMNT was great though! I highly recommend it to anyone.

ghi · « **Reply #32 on:** April 07, 2007, 07:52:25 PM »

not bad, for a movie made 100% behind blue screen, filmed in a warehouse in Montreal,

bozon · « **Reply #33 on:** April 08, 2007, 08:01:31 AM »

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Originally posted by ghi
not bad, for a movie made 100% behind blue screen, filmed in a warehouse in Montreal,

The technical aspects of it are very good. Had it been a pure fantasy film it would have been a decent movie. The tasteless history/fantasy mix is really what killed it.

Movies today have way better photographers, animators, special effect, sound and the rest of the technical production, then good directors, script writers or... well... good taste.

rogwar · « **Reply #34 on:** April 08, 2007, 01:14:32 PM »

Thanks for those redux pics and clips. Those were funny!

I went to go see 300 to be entertained, knowing what it was about beforehand. I was entertained. The fighting scenes were cool.

"Are you not entertained!" lol

Viking · « **Reply #35 on:** April 09, 2007, 11:11:08 AM »

Yes, 300 was based on a graphics novel, but more importantly 300 is a warrior's tale ... and warrior's tales have much in common with fisherman's tales.

Also notice that the movie started and ended with one of the surviving 300 telling the story of the glorious battle to the young new soldiers. Of course the war elephants are the size of Oliphants (or whatever they're called in LOTR), of course the enemy is described as foul monsters, of course the traitor is described as a horribly disfigured fiend of a man with no honor.

It's a warrior's tale.

Viking · « **Reply #36 on:** April 09, 2007, 11:20:28 AM »

Btw. here's the "PG" version trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caaQ4VT9GY8

Sikboy · « **Reply #37 on:** April 09, 2007, 01:14:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Yes, 300 was based on a graphics novel, but more importantly 300 is a warrior's tale ... and warrior's tales have much in common with fisherman's tales.

Also notice that the movie started and ended with one of the surviving 300 telling the story of the glorious battle to the young new soldiers. Of course the war elephants are the size of Oliphants (or whatever they're called in LOTR), of course the enemy is described as foul monsters, of course the traitor is described as a horribly disfigured fiend of a man with no honor.

It's a warrior's tale.

That's a good way to look at it. I hadn't considered that. Thanks.

-Sik

Maniac · « **Reply #38 on:** April 09, 2007, 04:09:41 PM »

Just saw it, i did enjoy it, an bit too many bravehearth speaches, but all in all i enjoyed it. Good action.

Wilbus · « **Reply #39 on:** April 11, 2007, 10:44:16 AM »

Personally I loved it, both the scripts and the effects.

Guess everybody has different taste, I never went to watch it to get a history lesson.

Was an awsome movie that accomplished the one thing a movie must accomplish... entertain.

I do agree I would have liked it better without some of the more fantasy like figures.

Maniac · « **Reply #40 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:03:51 AM »

I showed an few clips of 300 to my friends 13 yr old son the other day, this is his words :

ROFLMAD! They are OWNING people in their Underwear!!! HAHAHA! What the **** is this crap?!

So much for an history lesson

Maverick · « **Reply #41 on:** April 13, 2007, 12:44:45 PM »

Why would anyone go to a theater showing a holywierd production film aimed at entertainment and making money, expecting to see a documentary?

If you want history watch PBS. You'll have a better chance at getting what you expect there.

SunKing · « **Reply #42 on:** April 13, 2007, 12:48:30 PM »

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Originally posted by lambo31
A 10th grade history teacher here in my county is giving extra credit to his class for going to see "300". He is telling the kids it's based on facts. It really worries me what it will be like when my daughter is old enough to be in that class.

Lambo

That's to bad. The Director is even quoted saying the flim is totally blown up for Hollywood, that if he filmed the fight scenes and formations historical accurate it would make for a boring movie.