Author Topic: P-61 Black Widow (Read 766 times)

CAF001 · « **on:** April 13, 2007, 05:39:08 PM »

i'd persosnally love to see a P-61 Black Widow. of course w/ a perk price

don't growl at me if this was already posted.
or for the spelling errors.

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:16:00 PM »

Why would it be perked?

It isn't even as good as a Mosquito.

CAF001 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:19:01 PM »

dose BUILT IN RADAR mean anything to you?
it would have the lil dots moving CONSTANTLY unlike clipboard rader

whiteman · « **Reply #3 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:34:20 PM »

with the addition the 25 and Firefly i get over seeing new wishlists. I'd like the 61 also, but think other countries need to be filled long before it could be added.

CAF001 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:35:22 PM »

yeah,
but it would be a good addition.
it's the sort of thing we need.
we have all the day fighters,
but very few night fighters

Lusche · « **Reply #5 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:37:35 PM »

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Originally posted by CAF001
dose BUILT IN RADAR mean anything to you?
it would have the lil dots moving CONSTANTLY unlike clipboard rader

I think you may overestimate the ranges of airborne WW2 radar for nightfighters. Most sets I know about ( A few American & German) have a max range that does not exceed the dot visibility range we already do have in AH, though I don't have any exact numbers on the Black Widow's SCR-720A.

CAF001 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:39:11 PM »

perhpas,
but it'd be cool.
the clip board is abit of a helper to noobs, so take that out, there confused.
i've heard people complain it takes relsim out,
for those people, this is more relistic

Lusche · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:42:34 PM »

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Originally posted by CAF001
yeah,
but it would be a good addition.
it's the sort of thing we need.
we have all the day fighters,
but very few night fighters

Maybe because we don't have any use for them right now? And the additional weight and especially antennae drag of most radar set will slow them down considerable.

CAF001 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:43:48 PM »

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maby for relistic purposes AH should take dot dar out.
put oral rader in.

then we'll see how many people want these kind of planes

tedrbr · « **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:32:05 PM »

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Originally posted by CAF001
yeah,
but it would be a good addition.
it's the sort of thing we need.
we have all the day fighters,
but very few night fighters

We don't have night time. We don't have on-board radar in planes.
Those were the situations that the Black Widow excelled in. Without night and without the on-board radar, the Black Widow becomes less than useless in a LW war arena.

We have no need for a night fighter that would get chewed up in daylight fighting.

CAF001 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:33:04 PM »

w/ the black widow we would have on board radar now wouldn't we?

Lusche · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:41:04 PM »

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Originally posted by CAF001
w/ the black widow we would have on board radar now wouldn't we?

Yes but it would help you nothing.

CAF001 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:41:56 PM »

w/e
just thought it would be kool to have somthing like this.

it's really not worth arguing over.

thats why it's in "wishlist"

tedrbr · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:48:07 PM »

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Originally posted by CAF001
w/ the black widow we would have on board radar now wouldn't we?

On-board radar is not found in the game. HTC would have to create the code for it, then to actually make effective use of it, you need to bring night time back, which --- if not easily countered by gamma adjustment on monitors --- effectively grounds most of the other 74 planes so a few night fighter pilots can fly 1 plane.

P-61 also, IIRC, had an early night vision scope (similar to the A-26A prototype's, which competed for night fighter contract) ---- which would also have to be modeled for use in game.

That's an awful lot of code for inclusion of one plane type in the game that effectively forces other pilots, that don't like night fighting, to sit around waiting for dawn, or jump arenas. Even a lot more work to do all that just for use in SEA events or arenas.

Night fighters rate up there with Glider Planes, Unarmed Recon Planes, Seaplanes, and 2-1/2 ton trucks as almost completely useless niche additions to the game. To get anything out of the addition, you need to add a lot of game content that does not even exist now.

CAF001 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:49:39 PM »

i get the idea.

i just think it'd be neat.

lets just forget about it.