Author Topic: Tiger perks (Read 3073 times)

Kweassa · « **Reply #30 on:** April 15, 2007, 02:18:56 PM »

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Umm it its but the firefly isnt a regular M4. Its the gun that kills, the armor sucks. Its pretty much who can get a hit first is the one that wins.

The important thing here is, with the castration of the Tiger by 17lbs guns, and the addition of HVAP rounds for T-34s, effectively every GV in the game now 'sucks' in the armor category.

SAS_KID · « **Reply #31 on:** April 15, 2007, 05:50:46 PM »

I bet the tiger crews wished for perked fireflys:noid

Sketch · « **Reply #32 on:** April 15, 2007, 06:46:15 PM »

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Originally posted by SAS_KID
I bet the tiger crews wished for perked fireflys:noid

Sweet2th · « **Reply #33 on:** April 15, 2007, 07:07:58 PM »

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Originally posted by SAS_KID
I bet the tiger crews wished for perked fireflys:noid

In a recent interview a former Tiger crewmember was telling of how he felt so sorry for men in the sherman tanks because if they were seen the Tiger would destroy them effectively at 1500 meters and more with one shot.The Tiger crew's were dead on accurate.

715 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 15, 2007, 07:37:06 PM »

I'm confused why everyone keeps calling the Firefly armor bad. I can only kill one with T34 HVAP at point blank range, and then only with hits to the rear or to the rounded part of the frontal armor. Hits to the sloped front armor, turret, or tracks do nothing even at point blank range. At medium to long range they are entirely immune to T34s AP or HVAP. The HVAP works better against the Tiger than it does against the Firefly.

(I'm talking about AH Firefly.. not RL)

Vadjan-Sama · « **Reply #35 on:** April 15, 2007, 08:11:50 PM »

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Originally posted by 715
I'm confused why everyone keeps calling the Firefly armor bad. I can only kill one with T34 HVAP at point blank range, and then only with hits to the rear or to the rounded part of the frontal armor. Hits to the sloped front armor, turret, or tracks do nothing even at point blank range. At medium to long range they are entirely immune to T34s AP or HVAP. The HVAP works better against the Tiger than it does against the Firefly.

(I'm talking about AH Firefly.. not RL)

That happens by a thing, is not that the Sherman has better armor than the tiger, is because all the tanks except sherman are below their real power, perhaps sherman has main gun like to the tiger, but the armor is not it.

Today, got a tiger and only with 2 hits from at less 2k and go to tower, 1 on the front and 1 on the back thats a joke, in the same run I hit twice a Sherman on turret with the tiger after that 1 rook hited once with Sherman... I got assist

It is question to lower the points to the tiger or to put Sherman to him, this situation cannot continue.

DEMONSLAYER · « **Reply #36 on:** April 15, 2007, 08:24:28 PM »

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Originally posted by 68slayr
i want them to perk the sherman 5-10perks...you would still see shermans but not as many

ya thats what every 1 wanted when the spit16 came out.

Grits · « **Reply #37 on:** April 15, 2007, 08:43:01 PM »

They wont perk the M4, but they will lower the perk price on the Tiger just like they adjusted prices for planes like the -4 Hog and Ta152.

Sweet2th · « **Reply #38 on:** April 15, 2007, 11:52:21 PM »

Something i have noticed is that it takes 3 rounds to take down a town building.

Oleg · « **Reply #39 on:** April 16, 2007, 12:52:12 AM »

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Originally posted by 715
I'm confused why everyone keeps calling the Firefly armor bad. I can only kill one with T34 HVAP at point blank range, and then only with hits to the rear or to the rounded part of the frontal armor. Hits to the sloped front armor, turret, or tracks do nothing even at point blank range. At medium to long range they are entirely immune to T34s AP or HVAP. The HVAP works better against the Tiger than it does against the Firefly.

(I'm talking about AH Firefly.. not RL)

I havnt problems with penetration firefly's armor, but it just dont die from 1 or even 2 hits from panzer or t-34. I hit one three times with HVAP from ~500m in frontal hull, all rounds penetrated armor, but he survived

Looks like only firefly itself and tiger can kill fireflies easy.

Needless to say, ~95% tanks in TT are M4s.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #40 on:** April 16, 2007, 01:11:15 AM »

Sherman armor.

Hull Front:

M4A4 front armor shouldnt bee too weak if you hit it on the clean sloped parts - in that case it would be like T34 armor about 50mm sloped nicely.

However it does have the very vertical areas around the drivers hatches which were both vertical and shot traps. Does HTC make this area weaker?

The three piece bolted transmission cover was a weak point on Shermans so equipped.

Hull sides:

These should be ridiculously weak - about 40mm at 90 degrees vertical. A bit thicker around the applique armor areas. If AH shermans are tough on the sides then something clearly is wrong.

Turret:

Front and side armor is unremarkable. Similar to T34/76.

Imoutfishing · « **Reply #41 on:** April 16, 2007, 01:52:36 AM »

End result of all our observations.

Un-perk the Tiger & lower the eny value on the Panzer and the problem is solved. The Firefly is new so I bet you guy's will adjust just fine.

I think the Firefly offset the heavy tank ratio nicely. I would start asking for some Japanese or other field pieces. Now that would be cool!

MGD

Oleg · « **Reply #42 on:** April 16, 2007, 02:17:50 AM »

Unperking tiger would be the last nail in t-34's and panzer's coffins. Either perk firefly or weaken it.

Warspawn · « **Reply #43 on:** April 16, 2007, 03:56:19 AM »

I still don't understand..

During combined ops with Air and Ground assault, the Shermans are meat. I mean...even the Yak 9T's and IL's are shredding shermies. While Tigers can withstand tons of ord.

I hit 'close' to a sherman today in my IL2 with my ord and killed it. I dropped a 500lb bomb from an A20 later on top of a tiger and didn't dent it.

Tigers are way tougher than Shermans...

Xasthur · « **Reply #44 on:** April 16, 2007, 04:22:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Oleg
Unperking tiger would be the last nail in t-34's and panzer's coffins. Either perk firefly or weaken it.

Agreed.

Why bother with a Panzer or T34 if you can take a Tiger for free?