Author Topic: Tiger perks (Read 3011 times)

Lusche · « **Reply #45 on:** April 16, 2007, 06:35:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Imoutfishing
End result of all our observations.

Un-perk the Tiger & lower the eny value on the Panzer and the problem is solved.
MGD

If there are no Tigers to spend your perks on, the lower (I think you really mean "higher") ENY of the panzer would be irrelevant.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #46 on:** April 16, 2007, 06:48:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Sweet2th
In a recent interview a former Tiger crewmember was telling of how he felt so sorry for men in the sherman tanks because if they were seen the Tiger would destroy them effectively at 1500 meters and more with one shot.The Tiger crew's were dead on accurate.

1500 is a minimum.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #47 on:** April 16, 2007, 09:11:43 AM »

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Originally posted by Xasthur
Agreed.

Why bother with a Panzer or T34 if you can take a FIREFLY for free?

What about that?

Sweet2th · « **Reply #48 on:** April 16, 2007, 08:47:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
1500 is a minimum.

Oh yea.

If it was a Konig's Tiger 2,000 is the minimum.

Imoutfishing · « **Reply #49 on:** April 17, 2007, 12:54:16 AM »

Rock, paper, or ap rounds

Ok here it is,

Panzers with a higher eny value would result in more perks per kill.

Un-perked Tigers would off set the T-34's armour.

M-4 would off set the Tigers armour.

T-34 would off set everything everything.... just a bit slower.

I see a fair fight. It seems simple to me.

MGD

Lusche · « **Reply #50 on:** April 17, 2007, 01:53:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Imoutfishing
Rock, paper, or ap rounds

Ok here it is,

Panzers with a higher eny value would result in more perks per kill.

Un-perked Tigers would off set the T-34's armour.

And what would you do with that perks you gain in Panzer when the Tiger is un-perked?

Bronk · « **Reply #51 on:** April 17, 2007, 05:10:12 AM »

I see 5 perk tigers sooooooon.

Bronk

Oleg · « **Reply #52 on:** April 17, 2007, 07:01:50 AM »

5 perk Firefly would be better

Larry · « **Reply #53 on:** April 17, 2007, 08:08:58 AM »

5 perk sermans and 20-25 perk tiger

Kev367th · « **Reply #54 on:** April 17, 2007, 08:42:04 AM »

I think all that needs doing is for HT to look at the armour on the Sherman.

It seems a little tough compared to what you read about them.

I've actually found it harder to pop a Shermans turret with an IL2 than a Panzers.
Funnily enough most of the time it isn't the turret that goes but one of the tracks.

Of course a bug might have also crept in during the changes in this version, from the README -

Reviewed and revised modeling of various tank guns including penetration, damage, rate of fire, velocity, projectile weight, etc.

Modified the effects of obliquity on armor penetration so that it has slightly less effect on penetration

Larry · « **Reply #55 on:** April 17, 2007, 09:29:50 AM »

Serman VC Firefly

Turret Front 3"
Turret Sides 2"
Turret Rear 50.8mm
Turret Top 25.4mm

Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf H

Turret Front 2"
Turret Sides 1.2"
Turret Rear 30mm
Turret Top 16mm

I think the roundness and thickness of the serman makes it harder to shoot with a IL2. In tanks I dont even aim at the turret anymore any hit on the hull is a sure kill.

Pyro · « **Reply #56 on:** April 17, 2007, 10:20:32 AM »

The Tiger's perk value did go down by 40% as soon as the new version was out.

I expect that the Firefly will become a low level perk. I would have introduced it that way if it came out with the 75mm and 76mm Shermans but this is all we had.

I've been looking into reports about how tough Shermans and I don't see it. I've done a lot of different armor tests and have not found anything to make me think this is a tough tank to kill.

5PointOh · « **Reply #57 on:** April 17, 2007, 10:34:01 AM »

Stuka with 1800kg bomb works on everything.,:p

Wobblin-Goblin · « **Reply #58 on:** April 17, 2007, 10:38:30 AM »

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Originally posted by Pyro
I've been looking into reports about how tough Shermans and I don't see it. I've done a lot of different armor tests and have not found anything to make me think this is a tough tank to kill.

I've played a fair amount of 8 man GV lately and can honestly say the Firefly Sherman is harder to crack than I would have figured. No empirical evidence, just a seat of the pants observation. It is obviously easier to take out by flanking and popping the sides, but the frontal armor seems more tough than it should be.

Sweet2th · « **Reply #59 on:** April 17, 2007, 12:21:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Pyro
I would have introduced it that way if it came out with the 75mm and 76mm Shermans but this is all we had.

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