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Offline Citabria

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I was so frustrated by the large step backwards to ah2 beta in texture color brightness and contrast that I have hardly played the new version until today.

I gave up and upped my gamma to 1.5 so I could see the ground.

so it was playable and fun but afer very short period I began to get eyestrain. it gets worse the longer I play under these conditions.

I also have slight astigmatism and that most likely makes it much worse on my eyes even with corrective lenses on which I almost always wear when on the computer.



so again I disagree with the artistic choice of ultra dark textures for the terrain but the consequences of having these dark textures are harder on my eyes than they are on my artistic sensibilites.

I asked on ch 200 if others were suffering simlar eye strain and many others are aso affected.

its not just the art critic its the general arena population having much difficulty with this new version.
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Offline jaxxo

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2007, 02:37:14 PM »
it really strained mine for the first few days but I seem to have adjusted now and I dont notice it as much  for some reason

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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2007, 02:39:01 PM »
It is kind of like wearing sunglasses at night. At first it sucks, but after awhile you adjust to it.

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2007, 02:39:31 PM »
It seems to me as though each time a new terrain loads they've made minor adjustments and it's getting slightly better each time... or else it's just my imagination.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2007, 03:04:30 PM »
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It is kind of like wearing sunglasses at night. At first it sucks, but after awhile you adjust to it.

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Not refuting you so much as the idea:  "2.10 darkness" adds nothing to the game.  Being problematic for no benefit, it should go.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2007, 03:29:17 PM »
agreed.

but do they hear us?  are we communing with the yippy-yucks?  

so many pleas for mercy, so much silence.  so few explainations.

perhaps they don't love us anymore.

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Re: its not just an art complaint now. it actually is hurting my eyes
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2007, 03:41:33 PM »
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I also have slight astigmatism and that most likely makes it much worse on my eyes even with corrective lenses on which I almost always wear when on the computer.
so again I disagree with the artistic choice of ultra dark textures for the terrain but the consequences of having these dark textures are harder on my eyes than they are on my artistic sensibilites.

I asked on ch 200 if others were suffering simlar eye strain and many others are aso affected.

 


I also have a slight astigmatism.
It doesnt cause me headaches but I have oticed my eyes will actually start to tear up. if Im in a prolonged dogfight  And not out of sadness. either lol

You getting any of that also?
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2007, 03:47:33 PM »
Doesn't bother me as much as it seems to bother yall..... of course that may be because of the fact that I close my eyes when someone attacks me. That being the case my eyes get alot of rest during flight.

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2007, 04:52:48 PM »
my eyes don't tear up but its more a feeling of strain like your eyeballs are lifting weights or somthing.

I love playing this game and that overcame the artistic differences I had but I can't log on and play much and I don't really want to when its uncomfortable and straining.

this is a danger of terrain tile work. back years ago when I made ozkansas I asked squirl if I could use his pacific tiles and if I could modify them as well...

he mentioned to exercise much caution when modifying them in having two much contrast on the screen or making things difficult to see and such things. he was an expert terrain tile maker and made many tiles for AH1 but has moved on from ah2.
He said his chief complaint when terains were causing problems was eye strain and he was very mindful of it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2007, 05:15:31 PM »
At first I was pretty unhappy with the new terrain.  It has grown on me.  I have had to adjust my gamma to make it a little easier on the eyes.  No eye strain problmes though.

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2007, 07:46:37 PM »
Cit I'm having a rough time also.  Maybe because I'm older but picking up d depth perception against terrain is tough.  My eyes tire also.

I've set up Gamma on my ATI X800XT and calibrated a good Sony 22" CRT Monitor as well as raised Gamma in game to 1.7.  Terrain looks flat to me and from the air except for the trees all else appears flat and solid green color with very faint shades a bit lighter.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2007, 07:57:25 PM »
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Cit I'm having a rough time also.  Maybe because I'm older but picking up d depth perception against terrain is tough.  My eyes tire also.



Mate, sounds like you've got a slight astigmatism too.

I've got a lack of depth perception, a 3D effect if there is blue or red over the dark green background, and my eyes feel like they've been stabbed after about an hour.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2007, 08:19:51 PM »
Not sure if my eyes are getting tired or if it just trying to adjust between the bright sky and dark ground, but I definately get a headache now.

Thought it was an illusion as I played for several hours yesterday.  But got the same today and didn't play nearly as long.

Certainly didn't get the headaches prior.  Hope its not the game art causing it...love the game.

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2007, 08:53:53 PM »
I played just about every day for a long time and since the update I've been on twice if that's any indication of how enjoyable it is..............

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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2007, 09:14:18 PM »
Gotta admit...the overall lighting makes it difficult on my eyes and it's hard to take more than 30 - 45 minutes of flying at a time. Gamma adjustments help but depending on the sun position, it requires constant tweaking.

Be patient folks, HTC is updating the old terrain tiles with new ones. I'm sure that everyone...well, most folks...will be satisfied after a few tweaks are worked out.