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« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2007, 01:21:54 PM »
I think there is possibly a good number of people who are having a problem but are silent about it.  I wasn't going to say anything because i upped my gamma from a 1.5 to a 1.8 and that helped considerably with being able to see things on the ground.  I will agree with you guys on the eyestrain, my eyes feel much more tired after just an hour than they used to.

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« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2007, 01:38:53 PM »
Hmmm, I wonder... Straffo, do you have an LCD or CRT...?
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« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2007, 01:44:52 PM »
A crappy LCD since the death of my beloved Eizo :cry :cry

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« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2007, 01:58:54 PM »
after playing for a few nights the terrain is definately too dark.
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« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2007, 04:05:43 PM »
TO Dark.....please fix.... love the new stuff..... i just want to see it.....
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« Reply #65 on: April 18, 2007, 07:22:46 PM »
It is to the point where it hurts my eyes to fly.  Before it was bad enough when the sun got low, but now even with gamma set to 1.3 its either too bright when your flying into the sun or too dark when not looking at the sun (ie the rest of the terrain).

However why are we all surprised?  The screenies they posted showed the darker atmosphere weeks before the release.

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« Reply #66 on: April 18, 2007, 08:50:45 PM »
Gotta admit, that is one fantastic looking tank.

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« Reply #67 on: April 18, 2007, 08:56:04 PM »
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How many of those 1000 people have ever checked their calibration ?
For your information a brand new monitor IS NOT calibrated.

Plus I don't count 1000 people posting but less than 20.


My monitor is calibrated correctly, and to me AH is way too dark.  Enough so that I have to set gamma adjust in the game to 1.4 or 1.5, whereas it should be correct at 1.0 (for a correctly calibrated display system).

The link you posted really is only part of calibration (basically brightness or black level).  Here is a more thorough process that covers color temperature, contrast, black level, and gamma:

http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

Most decent CRT's are calibrated decently and result in a total display gamma of 2.2 (the sRGB standard).

LCD monitors . . . that's another matter.  Their color response is much different than CRT's, can be all over the map, and can have display gamma curves that significantly deviate from the sRGB standard.

Just because dark level looks fine doesn't mean the display gamma isn't all screwed up and thus that images will look completely different on that system than on a system that has a display gamma curve adjusted to the sRGB standard.
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« Reply #68 on: April 18, 2007, 09:34:42 PM »
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I don't get it , my monitor is also calibrated and in the past I always had a custom profile  for AH now I don't need it ... go figure ...


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« Reply #69 on: April 18, 2007, 11:00:09 PM »
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« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2007, 01:21:28 AM »
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My monitor is calibrated correctly, and to me AH is way too dark.  Enough so that I have to set gamma adjust in the game to 1.4 or 1.5, whereas it should be correct at 1.0 (for a correctly calibrated display system).

The link you posted really is only part of calibration (basically brightness or black level).  Here is a more thorough process that covers color temperature, contrast, black level, and gamma:

http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

Most decent CRT's are calibrated decently and result in a total display gamma of 2.2 (the sRGB standard).

LCD monitors . . . that's another matter.  Their color response is much different than CRT's, can be all over the map, and can have display gamma curves that significantly deviate from the sRGB standard.

Just because dark level looks fine doesn't mean the display gamma isn't all screwed up and thus that images will look completely different on that system than on a system that has a display gamma curve adjusted to the sRGB standard.


I checked mine and it's pretty close!

Still have to adjust color temp up toward or above 8500K and adjust gamma to 1.5 to see anything well in AH????????????????????????
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« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2007, 12:46:55 PM »
Monitor Calibration never was an issue for me this patch. I suspect a lot of guys have not the decent setup's. Which could explain the problems people are having.

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« Reply #72 on: April 19, 2007, 05:39:53 PM »
Not touched my monitor or vid card for the current terrains, nor can I admit to having eye strains or headaches, but mebbe its just me.

Though I will admit the terrain is abit too dark, but Iam managin fine.

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« Reply #73 on: April 19, 2007, 05:59:24 PM »
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I was so frustrated by the large step backwards to ah2 beta in texture color brightness and contrast that I have hardly played the new version until today.

I gave up and upped my gamma to 1.5 so I could see the ground.

so it was playable and fun but afer very short period I began to get eyestrain. it gets worse the longer I play under these conditions.

I also have slight astigmatism and that most likely makes it much worse on my eyes even with corrective lenses on which I almost always wear when on the computer.



so again I disagree with the artistic choice of ultra dark textures for the terrain but the consequences of having these dark textures are harder on my eyes than they are on my artistic sensibilites.

I asked on ch 200 if others were suffering simlar eye strain and many others are aso affected.

its not just the art critic its the general arena population having much difficulty with this new version.


think thats bad my gamma is at 3.0 so i can stop augering....just cant see
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« Reply #74 on: April 20, 2007, 05:52:55 PM »
Yea, my old CRT can't handle the new colors. Brightness is already maxed out, and I've tried various combinations of settings to gamma, etc., all to no avail. Everything is too dark.